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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Chanwoo Choi <cw00.choi-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	Maxime Ripard
	<maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Chen-Yu Tsai <wens-jdAy2FN1RRM@public.gmane.org>,
	Roman Byshko <rbyshko-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree <devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-sunxi-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: [PATCH v4 1/2] phy-sun4i-usb: Add full support for usb0 phy / OTG
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:59:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55794DEA.1050604@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <557946EC.3060607-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>

Hi,

On 11-06-15 10:29, Chanwoo Choi wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> On 06/11/2015 05:21 PM, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> Hi Chanwoo,
>>
>> Thanks for the quick review.
>>
>> On 11-06-15 10:07, Chanwoo Choi wrote:
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> I add the comment about extcon-related code.
>>>
>>> Firstly,
>>> I'd like you to implment the extcon driver for phy-sun4i-usb device
>>> in drivers/extcon/ directoryby using MFD
>>
>> No, just no, this is not what the MFD framework is for, the usb-phy
>> in question here is not a multifunction device. The MFD framework
>> is intended for true multi-function devices like i2c attached
>> PMICs which have regulators, gpios, pwm, input (power button),
>> chargers, power-supply, etc. That is NOT the case here.
>>
>> Also moving this to the MFD framework would very likely requiring
>> the devicetree binding for the usb-phy to change which we cannot
>> do as that would break the devicetree ABI.
>>
>>> because there are both extcon
>>> provider driver and extcon client driver. I think that all extcon
>>> provider driver better to be included in drivers/extcon/ directory.
>>> extcon_set_cable_state() function should be handled in extcon provider
>>> driver which is incluced in drivers/extcon/ directory.
>>
>> I do not find this a compelling reason, there are plenty of subsystems
>> where not all implementations of the subsystem class live in the subsystem
>> directory, e.g. input and hwmon devices are often also found outside of
>> the input and hwmon driver directories.
>
> There are difference on between input/hwmon and extcon.
>
> Because input and hwmon driver implement the only one type driver as provider driver.
> But, extcon implement the two type driver of both extcon provider and extcon client driver.
> The extcon is similiar with regulator and clock framework as resource.
>
> extcon provider driver to provider the event when the state of external connector is changed.
> - devm_extcon_dev_register()
> - e.g., almost extcon provider driver are included in 'drivers/extcon/' directory.

I understand, but that does not change my first argument, that the usb-phy is not
a MFD device. And although it may be desirable to keep extcon provider drivers
in the drivers/extcon, there are no technical reasons to do so.

The whole reason why Kishon asked me to start using the extcon framework is to avoid
adding a private API to the phy-sun4i-usb code for notifying the musb-sunxi code
about otg-id-pin status changes. Adding a separate driver for just the extcon bits
means re-adding a private api to the phy-sun4i-usb code but this time for the
extcon code, at which point we might just as well skip extcon and have the
musb-sunxi glue code call directly into the phy-sun4i-usb code...

Needing a private API for a separate extcn driver actually is a good argument to
NOT have a separate extcon driver and keep the extcon code in the phy-sun4i-usb code,
where as I see no technical arguments in favor of a separate extcon driver.

Regards,

Hans
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-06-11  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-31 16:10 [PATCH v4 0/2] Remaining sunxi musb patches Hans de Goede
     [not found] ` <1433088626-8858-1-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-31 16:10   ` [PATCH v4 1/2] phy-sun4i-usb: Add full support for usb0 phy / OTG Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1433088626-8858-2-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-01  9:22       ` Maxime Ripard
2015-06-01  9:28         ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]           ` <556C25B7.80708-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-02 15:22             ` Maxime Ripard
2015-06-11  5:48       ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]         ` <55792122.20607-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-11  7:56           ` [linux-sunxi] " Hans de Goede
     [not found]             ` <55793F41.7000304-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-11  8:28               ` Hans de Goede
2015-06-11  8:07           ` Chanwoo Choi
     [not found]             ` <557941A6.5000306-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-11  8:21               ` [linux-sunxi] " Hans de Goede
     [not found]                 ` <557944EE.1020303-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-11  8:29                   ` Chanwoo Choi
     [not found]                     ` <557946EC.3060607-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-11  8:59                       ` Hans de Goede [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <55794DEA.1050604-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-11  9:33                           ` Chanwoo Choi
     [not found]                             ` <557955D4.4030908-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-11  9:37                               ` [linux-sunxi] " Chanwoo Choi
2015-06-11  9:38                               ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]                                 ` <5579572D.4070006-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-11 10:30                                   ` Chanwoo Choi
2015-06-11  9:42       ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]         ` <55795800.4070405-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-11  9:53           ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]             ` <55795A98.8090303-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-11 11:16               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]                 ` <55796E23.90509-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-11 12:35                   ` [linux-sunxi] " Hans de Goede
     [not found]                     ` <5579808C.2080208-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-11 12:59                       ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2015-07-15 10:55       ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]         ` <55A63C1B.1010503-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15 10:58           ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2015-05-31 16:10   ` [PATCH v4 2/2] musb: Add support for the Allwinner sunxi musb controller Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1433088626-8858-3-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-02 15:02       ` Felipe Balbi
2015-06-01 18:30   ` [PATCH v4 0/2] Remaining sunxi musb patches Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <79fc4306-a621-43b8-b347-e42a27beb134-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-01 18:34       ` Felipe Balbi
     [not found]         ` <20150601183447.GF26081-HgARHv6XitJaoMGHk7MhZQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-02  7:14           ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]             ` <556D57BD.90502-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-02 14:45               ` Felipe Balbi

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