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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Maxime Ripard
	<maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Pantelis Antoniou
	<pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Chen-Yu Tsai <wens-jdAy2FN1RRM@public.gmane.org>,
	Vishnu Patekar
	<vishnupatekar0510-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree <devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-sunxi-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/6] ARM: sun8i: dts: Add Ippo-q8h v1.2 with A33 and 1024x600 lcd support
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:16:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55811ED9.9090503@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150616175512.GJ11732@lukather>

Hi,

On 16-06-15 19:55, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> Hi Pantelis,
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 09:16:21PM +0300, Pantelis Antoniou wrote:
>>> I think we need to discuss this with Pantelis and what is his feeling
>>> about this.
>>>
>>> Pantelis, to sum things up, we have a case of a tablet that comes with
>>> the exact same board, but coming in two flavours with two differents
>>> screen resolutions. It looks like a great case for your DT quirks
>>> work, but we have no way of runtime detecting the difference between
>>> the two variants. What do you think about this? Should we go with
>>> using the DT quirks or is this simply out of scope?
>>>
>>> There's not so much example of similar cases in the kernel, and none
>>> of them use quirks so far (obviously) but they all boil down to either
>>> the solution you were suggesting in that patch or adding the alternate
>>> configuration as a comment.
>>>
>>> I don't think the latter would work for you, and I agree with that, so
>>> I guess that depending on what Pantelis says, either we go with a
>>> better solution using the quirks, or we end up using what you
>>> suggested (with a nitpick though, I'd prefer if you used the display
>>> standard instead of the resolution, which would make it xga I guess?)
>>>
>>
>> First of all, the quirks interface is at an RFC stage (new name
>> suggested is ‘variants’); getting that out of the way this seems
>> like what it is designed to do.
>>
>> The idea of the DT quirks is to drastically cut down on the number
>> of different DTs required, each different for each board with minute
>> differences from one another.
>
> We're on the same page then :)
>
>> In your case you have boards that have no way to be probed about
>> what they ‘are’, but that’s no big problem. You can easily pass the
>> board variant in the kernel command line and use that to select the
>> quirk to apply.
>
> Hans actually pointed out that this would just move the logic
> somewhere else, but not remove it. In our case, that would mean U-Boot
> (Hans being the U-Boot maintainer for the SoCs that are used in this
> particular board).
>
> That would still require us to have a different configuration and to
> add some logic to pass that extra parameter to the kernel. I'd be glad
> to have less stuff in the kernel, but I can understand that he doesn't
> want more stuff either.
>
>> In fact the original patchset does contain a command line quirk for
>> enabling and disabling the onboard emmc & hdmi of the beaglebone
>> black for capes that need to use those signals.
>
> Ah. I somehow overlooked that when reading it.
>
>> Saying that, if you’re in a hurry I’d say go with a different DTSs
>> for now, since that’s going to go in a near kernel cycle; DT quirks
>> will be discussed at plumber’s in a couple of months, and then we’ll
>> if it will go in and in what form.
>
> Ok. I won't be here this year, but if you could raise the topic of how
> to handle "non-discoverable boards" then, it would be great.
>
> Hans, I guess we can go for your suggestion then: apply a "generic" DT
> for the board right now, we're going to need it anyway. Then, when
> will have real display support, depending on the current state of the
> discussion for the quirks, we will either merge a different DT
> including the generic one, or if the quirks have something that work
> for both of us then, use the quirks. Sounds good?

Sounds good to me, will you make the changes while merging, or shall
I do a new version of the patch ?

Regards,

Hans

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-06-17  7:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-30 14:55 [PATCH v2 0/6] Introduce Allwinner A33 support Hans de Goede
     [not found] ` <1432997706-20172-1-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-30 14:55   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] ARM: sunxi: Add Machine support for A33 Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1432997706-20172-2-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-02  7:28       ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-30 14:55   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] pinctrl: sunxi: Add allwinner A33 PIO controller support Hans de Goede
2015-05-30 14:55   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] ARM: dts: sun8i: Add sun8i-a23-a33 dtsi Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1432997706-20172-4-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-02  7:51       ` Maxime Ripard
2015-06-02  8:08         ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]           ` <556D6487.4010207-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-02  8:21             ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-30 14:55   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] ARM: dts: sun8i: Add sun8i-a33 dtsi Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1432997706-20172-5-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-02  7:55       ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-30 14:55   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] ARM: dts: sun8i: Add ET-Q8 A33 support Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1432997706-20172-6-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-02  7:56       ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-30 14:55   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] ARM: sun8i: dts: Add Ippo-q8h v1.2 with A33 and 1024x600 lcd support Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1432997706-20172-7-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-02  8:14       ` Maxime Ripard
2015-06-02  8:29         ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]           ` <556D6955.8030708-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03  9:45             ` Maxime Ripard
2015-06-03 11:12               ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]                 ` <556EE104.3090803-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-13 13:50                   ` Maxime Ripard
2015-06-13 14:18                     ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]                       ` <557C3BD3.6030105-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-16 17:41                         ` Maxime Ripard
2015-06-17  7:16                           ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]                             ` <55811EB2.4060302-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-18 18:37                               ` Maxime Ripard
2015-06-18 20:16                                 ` Hans de Goede
2015-06-14 18:16                     ` Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found]                       ` <85E62D2D-5387-433B-A944-7F2145459F08-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-16 17:55                         ` Maxime Ripard
2015-06-16 19:33                           ` Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found]                             ` <D4216F2D-0556-4849-B1DF-8E4D250006B4-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-17  7:19                               ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]                                 ` <55811F94.3080608-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-17  7:26                                   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2015-06-17  7:16                           ` Hans de Goede [this message]
     [not found]                             ` <55811ED9.9090503-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-18 17:52                               ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-30 20:43   ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Introduce Allwinner A33 support jonsmirl-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w
2015-06-02  7:43   ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2016-06-13 19:10 ` ernestovm07

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