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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Chen-Yu Tsai <wens-jdAy2FN1RRM@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Bruno Prémont"
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Subject: Re: [linux-sunxi] [PATCH 6/8] ARM: dts: axp209: Add usb_power_supply child node to the ax209 node
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:14:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55BB3C5C.8090905@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGb2v66+CZe0v=CuYOLfnNwkX70kwPOP28Nya2Y8xw8yrg4-8Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

Hi,

On 31-07-15 11:00, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On 31-07-15 08:35, Bruno Prémont wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:14:28 +0800 Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Bruno Prémont wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi ChenYu,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:31:53 +0800 Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Hans,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 5:37 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Add a node representing the usb power supply part of the axp209 pmic,
>>>>>>> note
>>>>>>> that the usb power supply and the (to be added later) ac power supply
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> each have their own child-node, so that they can be separately
>>>>>>> specified
>>>>>>> as power-supply for other nodes using a power-supply property with a
>>>>>>> phandle pointing to the right axp209 child-node.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Hans de Goede <hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>    arch/arm/boot/dts/axp209.dtsi | 5 +++++
>>>>>>>    1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm/boot/dts/axp209.dtsi
>>>>>>> b/arch/arm/boot/dts/axp209.dtsi
>>>>>>> index 24c935c..051ab3b 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/arch/arm/boot/dts/axp209.dtsi
>>>>>>> +++ b/arch/arm/boot/dts/axp209.dtsi
>>>>>>> @@ -89,4 +89,9 @@
>>>>>>>                           regulator-name = "ldo5";
>>>>>>>                   };
>>>>>>>           };
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +       usb_power_supply: usb_power_supply {
>>>>>>> +               compatible = "x-powers,axp202-usb-power-supply";
>>>>>>> +               status = "disabled";
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any reason to have this disabled by default?
>>>>>> AFAIK this is not something configurable in hardware,
>>>>>> and the driver just gives readouts and status updates.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There are some devices that only have 'AC-IN' instead of usb/otg power
>>>>> (set-top boxes) so having the devices tell what power sources they
>>>>> have makes sense (otherwise those that have ac-in instead of otg would
>>>>> have to disable usb_power_supply) and avoids confusion by explicitly
>>>>> stating presence in device dts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's true. But this is a bit of hardware inside the AXP.
>>>> If it's power isn't routed, it should report it, shouldn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>> If the device does not use the input there are two cases:
>>> - ac-in and usb/otg in short-circuited (there is a bit in AXP registers
>>>     to provide this indication)
>>> - the unused one is just not connected/connectable
>>>
>>> In either case the voltage of the unused/unusable branch is not really
>>> useful, nor is it useful to have it show up in sysfs.
>>
>>
>> Exactly my thinking on this, +1 .
>>
>>>> And normal users would probably expect to read the input
>>>> voltage/current/status through sysfs (or maybe hwmon?),
>>>> instead of not finding the device and having to look through
>>>> the DTS.
>>>
>>>
>>> Only those supplies effectively present (in-use or with connectors
>>> to eventually use them) should be visible in sysfs.
>>> Having more of them will just confuse the users, they would be searching
>>> how they can connect the supply while there is no means to do so
>>> except soldering to the tiny AXP pins.
>>
>>
>> +1
>
> OK. So mostly tablets and dev boards would benefit from having both
> power supplies. Is there a preference for usb-power-supply over
> vbus-det-gpio if both are available? Or just list them both and
> let the driver sort it out?

p.s.

Note that the driver can even deal with not having a vbus-det at
all. It will then simulate a vbus drop for long enough to terminate
the current session when ever the id pin changes. This is necessary
for the original cubieboard which has its vbus wired hard to 5V.

This MUST only be used on boards woth broken vbus-det though, having
vbus-det is important to avoid feeding power to the outside when
a charger is plugged in (a charge cable should never pull the id
pin low, but you never know).

Regards,

Hans
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-31  9:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-09 21:37 [PATCH 0/8] mfd/power/phy: Add support for otg vbus detection via axp pmic Hans de Goede
2015-06-09 21:37 ` [PATCH 1/8] mfd: axp20x: Add missing registers, and mark more registers volatile Hans de Goede
     [not found]   ` <1433885881-19809-2-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-10  7:36     ` Lee Jones
     [not found] ` <1433885881-19809-1-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-09 21:37   ` [PATCH 2/8] mfd: axp20x: Add a cell for the usb power_supply part of the axp20x PMICs Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1433885881-19809-3-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-10  1:19       ` Chen-Yu Tsai
     [not found]         ` <CAGb2v652W+i6L1k5-CnHtXZXdJjFswkcyFGromhWSYaXtitW_w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-10  7:57           ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]             ` <5577EDD9.8020900-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-13 13:50               ` Maxime Ripard
2015-06-24 12:18                 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-10  7:35       ` Lee Jones
2015-06-10  7:36       ` Lee Jones
2015-06-09 21:37   ` [PATCH 4/8] power: Add an axp20x-usb-power driver Hans de Goede
2015-06-10  7:29     ` Lee Jones
2015-06-10  9:22       ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]         ` <557801B8.5040804-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-10  9:34           ` Lee Jones
2015-06-09 21:37   ` [PATCH 5/8] phy-sun4i-usb: Add support for monitoring vbus via a power-supply Hans de Goede
2015-06-09 21:37   ` [PATCH 6/8] ARM: dts: axp209: Add usb_power_supply child node to the ax209 node Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1433885881-19809-7-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-31  5:31       ` Chen-Yu Tsai
     [not found]         ` <CAGb2v66X79dK84hG8NVTho-kPPMNcKXQspvT2pCM8Zbmnme53A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-31  5:51           ` Bruno Prémont
2015-07-31  6:14             ` [linux-sunxi] " Chen-Yu Tsai
     [not found]               ` <CAGb2v67nM7pauyjyhBdfgX7p_Rud6TEsNqphB+gx4ROekVqtbw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-31  6:35                 ` Bruno Prémont
2015-07-31  7:57                   ` [linux-sunxi] " Maxime Ripard
     [not found]                   ` <20150731083541.5f2c683a-I2t2yFIzmohO7ya8xxV06g@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-31  8:31                     ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]                       ` <55BB3262.5000403-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-31  9:00                         ` Chen-Yu Tsai
     [not found]                           ` <CAGb2v66+CZe0v=CuYOLfnNwkX70kwPOP28Nya2Y8xw8yrg4-8Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-31  9:11                             ` [linux-sunxi] " Hans de Goede
     [not found]                               ` <55BB3BCB.6080608-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-31 10:06                                 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2015-07-31  9:14                             ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2015-06-09 21:38   ` [PATCH 7/8] ARM: dts: sun7i: Add regulator configuration to the bananapi dts file Hans de Goede
2015-06-10  6:15   ` [PATCH 0/8] mfd/power/phy: Add support for otg vbus detection via axp pmic Priit Laes
2015-06-09 21:37 ` [PATCH 3/8] power: Add devm_power_supply_get_by_phandle() helper function Hans de Goede
2015-06-10 14:49   ` Sebastian Reichel
2015-06-09 21:38 ` [PATCH 8/8] ARM: dts: sun7i: Enable USB DRC on Bananapi Hans de Goede

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