From: Mathias Nyman <mathias.nyman@intel.com>
To: chunfeng yun <chunfeng.yun@mediatek.com>
Cc: Mathias Nyman <mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 4/5] xhci: mediatek: support MTK xHCI host controller
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 11:25:23 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5625FA73.3050309@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1445322554.4858.12.camel@mhfsdcap03>
On 20.10.2015 09:29, chunfeng yun wrote:
> hi,
> On Mon, 2015-10-19 at 14:25 +0300, Mathias Nyman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So basically we are trying to use as many microframes as possible with as few packets
>>>> per microframe as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Did I understand this correctly?
>>> Yes, you are right.
>>>
>>>> How will devices react if they expect to get 16 packets every 16th microframe,
>>>> but they get one packet every microframe instead?
>>> I think that the synchronous endpoint must specify its period by
>>> bInterval, but can't specify how data should be transfered during the
>>> period by the host, and it just only receives data passively. So the
>>> device can receive data correctly in the case(bInterval is 5).
>>>
>>> quote from usb3_r1.0 section4.4.8 Isochronous Transfers:
>>> "The host can request data from the device or send data to the device at
>>> any time during the service interval for a particular endpoint on that
>>> device"
>>>
>>
>> As I understand the 4.4.8 section it just means the device can't assume a fixed
>> time interval between transfers, meaning that the host can use the last microframe
>> in one esit and the first microframe in the next esit, but still only use 1 microframe
>> per esit.
>>
>> Section 8.12.6.1 describes how a 11 packet isoc transfer is allowed to be split
>> to 1 burst of 11 packets, 2 burst (8 + 3), 3 burst (4+4+3) 6 bursts (2+2+2+2+2+1) or
>> 11 bursts of 1. These are however all within the same microframe. Splitting the
>> transfer into several microframes in a esit kind of makes the whole interval concept pointless.
>>
> It doesn't say that the packets should be transfered within the same
> microframe (bus interval), as I understand it means service interval;
>
> The direct prove resides in figure 8-56/8-57.
>
> Term:
> 1. BI, bus interval, a 125 us period that establishes the internal
> boundary of service interval, aka uframe;
> 2. SSI, Support Smart Isochronous;
> 3. DBI, Data in this Bus Interval is done;
> 4. NBI, Numbers of Bus Interval;
>
> As the figure shows, the service interval = 8 BI, that host distribute 2
> packets @1st uframe, keep U1/U2 state for the next 3uframe, then
> transmit 4 packets @4th uframe, and the remaining 3 packet in the last
> frame.
>
> Please notice that this just is an example illustrated by spec, but we
> can derive the conclusion that the distribution of packet in a service
> interval is completely decided by host, and can split isoc transfers
> across multiple uframes.
So it seems. You're right
>
> PS: as you can see, MTK implementation of schedule algorithms is an
> implementation of Smart Isochronous of which the smart side resides in
> software.
Thanks for the clarification, I now understand how the implementation works
-Mathias
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-20 8:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-29 3:01 [PATCH v9 0/5] Mediatek xHCI support Chunfeng Yun
2015-09-29 3:01 ` [PATCH v9 2/5] dt-bindings: Add a binding for Mediatek xHCI host controller Chunfeng Yun
[not found] ` <1443495698-32233-3-git-send-email-chunfeng.yun-NuS5LvNUpcJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-29 14:49 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2015-10-08 11:37 ` chunfeng yun
2015-09-29 3:01 ` [PATCH v9 3/5] phy: add usb3.0 phy driver for mt65xx SoCs Chunfeng Yun
[not found] ` <1443495698-32233-4-git-send-email-chunfeng.yun-NuS5LvNUpcJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-06 14:20 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2015-10-08 11:45 ` chunfeng yun
2015-09-29 3:01 ` [PATCH v9 4/5] xhci: mediatek: support MTK xHCI host controller Chunfeng Yun
[not found] ` <1443495698-32233-5-git-send-email-chunfeng.yun-NuS5LvNUpcJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-01 11:44 ` Daniel Thompson
2015-10-08 12:05 ` chunfeng yun
2015-10-08 12:28 ` Daniel Thompson
[not found] ` <5616616D.3080205-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-08 13:05 ` Mathias Nyman
2015-10-08 14:42 ` chunfeng yun
2015-10-08 14:38 ` chunfeng yun
2015-10-15 14:46 ` Mathias Nyman
[not found] ` <561FBC40.7020100-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-18 1:25 ` chunfeng yun
2015-10-19 11:25 ` Mathias Nyman
[not found] ` <5624D33D.5090807-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-20 6:29 ` chunfeng yun
2015-10-20 8:25 ` Mathias Nyman [this message]
[not found] ` <1443495698-32233-1-git-send-email-chunfeng.yun-NuS5LvNUpcJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-29 3:01 ` [PATCH v9 1/5] dt-bindings: Add usb3.0 phy binding for MT65xx SoCs Chunfeng Yun
[not found] ` <1443495698-32233-2-git-send-email-chunfeng.yun-NuS5LvNUpcJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-29 14:43 ` Sergei Shtylyov
[not found] ` <560AA37E.2090106-M4DtvfQ/ZS1MRgGoP+s0PdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-08 11:27 ` chunfeng yun
2015-09-29 3:01 ` [PATCH v9 5/5] arm64: dts: mediatek: add xHCI & usb phy for mt8173 Chunfeng Yun
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