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From: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: JBottomley@odin.com, martin.petersen@oracle.com,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, pawel.moll@arm.com,
	ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk, galak@codeaurora.org,
	linuxarm@huawei.com, zhangfei.gao@linaro.org,
	xuwei5@hisilicon.com, john.garry2@mail.dcu.ie,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	arnd@arndb.de, devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/23] devicetree: bindings: hisi_sas: add v2 HW bindings
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 14:00:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5693B59A.6000705@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160108164910.GD32692@leverpostej>

>> This is a specific issue for hip06 chipset.
>
> Ok. So is this:
>
> * a bug within the SAS controller in hip06, or:
>
> * a requirement/bug of an endpoint attached to the controller, or:
>
> * a requirement/bug of some interconnect between the controller and
>    endpoint, or:
>
> * some other integration bug?
>

This is related to how the SAS controller IP was integrated into the 
chip. It is related to how many bursts are permitted for this controller 
on the AXI bus.

> Please describe what the issue is that you're trying to work around, not
> only your solution to it.
>
>> There is a bug in the HW on hip06 where controller #1 has to set to 2
>> registers to non-default values to limit "am-max-transmissions".
>
> I got that. However, I have no idea what "am-max-transmissions" is, no
> idea why you need to limit it (hopefully you can describe that a little
> better above), nor what the semantics are for "limit".
>

So am-max-transmissions is a SW configurable feature of the controller. 
 From a high-level, it means how many commands we can send in parallel 
to the end device(s) without waiting for a response. It is dependent on 
the chip bus design.

> The description of the property is an imperative, which reads like a
> description of a specific driver behaviour rather than a property of the
> hardware that leads to that behaviour being necessary. That's a warning
> sign that the property is ill-defined, and we may encounter problems in
> future due to changes in Linux.
>

Agreed.

> Without knowing _why_ it's necessary to limit this, it's not possible to
> know if the property is both necessary and sufficient to solve the
> problem such that it doesn't rear its ugly head in future.
>
> For example, if this is simply one way to work around a hip06-specific
> integration bug that we cannot imagine occurring elsewhere, it may be
> better to instead key off of a platform-specific compatible string for
> the v2 SAS controller in hip06. That gives us more freedom to apply
> different workarounds if we have to.
>
> I see that the presence of this property will cause the driver to writes
> hard-coded values two two registers. Not knowing the format of those
> registers, their default values, nor how they respond to writes, I can't
> tell:
>

As for writing hardcoded values, by default the related registers will 
hold 0x40, which means we can have upto 64 outstanding requests on this 
controller. Due to controller #1 integration restrictions, we can only 
issue 32 requests.

> * If the writes have other effects.
>
> * If the limit is a single bit being flipped (i.e. this is a boolean in
>    hardware too).
>
> * If the limit is some arbitrary chosen value which is not described in
>    the property or the binding, nor what that value is. If we encounter a
>    similar bug requiring a different bound in future, it may be
>    problematic to have chosen an arbitrary fixed value, and it may make
>    more sense to describe the value in the DT.
>
> So, please:
>
> * Update the DT property description to describe the specific HW issue
>    that needs to be worked around, with a full description in the commit
>    message.
>
> * Add a comment to the driver to explain what the effect of the register
>    writes is intended to be, i.e. what value am max transmissions is
>    being set to, and why that value isn't arbitrary.
>

As I understand, there are no more restictions/special requirements for 
controller #1. This v2 controller IP will be used in other chips, so we 
may have this issue again - I am seeking information from HW people. As 
such, it may be useful to know this info before decided on how this is 
decribed in the DT.

>> This would not be a common SAS/SCSI controller property and is
>> specific to our HW.
>
> Ok.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark.
>

Cheers,
John



  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-11 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-08 14:15 [PATCH 00/23] HiSilicon SAS v2 hw support John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 01/23] devicetree: bindings: hisi_sas: add v2 HW bindings John Garry
     [not found]   ` <1452262542-64589-2-git-send-email-john.garry-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-08 14:52     ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-08 15:15       ` John Garry
2016-01-08 15:19         ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-08 15:34           ` John Garry
2016-01-08 16:49             ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-11 14:00               ` John Garry [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <5693B59A.6000705-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-12 12:16                   ` John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 03/23] hisi_sas: set max commands as configurable John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 04/23] hisi_sas: reduce max itct entries John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 05/23] hisi_sas: add hisi_sas_err_record_v1 John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 06/23] hisi_sas: rename some fields in hisi_sas_itct John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 07/23] hisi_sas: add bare v2 hw driver John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 08/23] hisi_sas: add v2 register definitions John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 10/23] hisi_sas: add init_id_frame_v2_hw() John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 11/23] hisi_sas: add v2 phy init code John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 12/23] hisi_sas: add v2 int init and phy up handler John Garry
     [not found] ` <1452262542-64589-1-git-send-email-john.garry-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-08 14:15   ` [PATCH 02/23] hisi_sas: relocate DEV_IS_EXPANDER John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15   ` [PATCH 09/23] hisi_sas: add v2 hw init John Garry
2016-01-08 15:07     ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-08 14:15   ` [PATCH 13/23] hisi_sas: add v2 phy down handler John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15   ` [PATCH 18/23] hisi_sas: add v2 code to send smp command John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15   ` [PATCH 20/23] hisi_sas: add v2 path to send ATA command John Garry
2016-01-08 14:31   ` [PATCH 00/23] HiSilicon SAS v2 hw support John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 14/23] hisi_sas: add v2 channel interrupt handler John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 15/23] hisi_sas: add v2 SATA " John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 16/23] hisi_sas: add v2 cq " John Garry
2016-01-08 17:29   ` kbuild test robot
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 17/23] hisi_sas: add v2 path to send ssp frame John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 19/23] hisi_sas: add v2 code for itct setup and free John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 21/23] hisi_sas: add v2 slot error handler John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 22/23] hisi_sas: add v2 tmf functions John Garry
2016-01-08 14:15 ` [PATCH 23/23] hisi_sas: update driver version to 1.1 John Garry
2016-01-11 13:43 ` [PATCH 00/23] HiSilicon SAS v2 hw support Hannes Reinecke

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