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From: Marek Vasut <marex-ynQEQJNshbs@public.gmane.org>
To: Vladimir Zapolskiy
	<vladimir_zapolskiy-nmGgyN9QBj3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Alexey Brodkin <abrodkin-HKixBCOQz3hWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: ARC dw-mshc binding compat string
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 21:24:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56F6EFFD.9070007@denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56F6ED41.5020908-nmGgyN9QBj3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On 03/26/2016 09:12 PM, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote:
> On 26.03.2016 21:52, Marek Vasut wrote:
>> On 03/26/2016 07:16 PM, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote:
>>> On 26.03.2016 20:10, Marek Vasut wrote:
>>>> On 03/26/2016 06:52 PM, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote:
>>>>> Hi Marek,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 26.03.2016 19:30, Marek Vasut wrote:
>>>>>> On 03/26/2016 06:26 PM, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26.03.2016 12:14, Marek Vasut wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I noticed that arch/arc/boot/dts/axs10x_mb.dtsi uses "altr," prefix in
>>>>>>>> the DT compatible string:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mmc@0x15000 {
>>>>>>>>         compatible = "altr,socfpga-dw-mshc";
>>>>>>>>         reg = < 0x15000 0x400 >;
>>>>>>>>         num-slots = < 1 >;
>>>>>>>>         fifo-depth = < 16 >;
>>>>>>>>         card-detect-delay = < 200 >;
>>>>>>>>         clocks = <&apbclk>, <&mmcclk>;
>>>>>>>>         clock-names = "biu", "ciu";
>>>>>>>>         interrupts = < 7 >;
>>>>>>>>         bus-width = < 4 >;
>>>>>>>> };
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't think this is OK, since ARC is unrelated to Altera, which is
>>>>>>>> what the "altr," prefix stands for. I think the socfpga-dw-mshc shim
>>>>>>>> should be extended with another compatibility string, something like
>>>>>>>> "snps,arc-dw-mshc" and the axs10x_mb.dtsi should be adjusted
>>>>>>>> accordingly. What do you think ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is "snps,dw-mshc" described in
>>>>>>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/synopsys-dw-mshc.txt and supported by
>>>>>>> dw_mmc host controller driver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, that's even better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> btw what do you think of using altr, prefix on non-altera system, that
>>>>>> doesn't seem ok, right ?
>>>>>
>>>>> according to ePAPR the prefix should represent a device (IP block here
>>>>> I believe) manufacturer, so it should be okay to use "altr" prefix on
>>>>> non-Altera system, if Altera provides  another hardware vendor with
>>>>> some own IP block.
>>>>
>>>> In this case, it's Synopsys who provides the SD/MMC/MS core to other
>>>> chip makers (Altera etc).
>>>
>>> Correct.
>>>
>>>>> That said, I would rather prefer to see "snps,dw-mshc" prefix on description
>>>>> of an MMC controller found on SoCFPGA series, "altr,socfpga-dw-mshc" seems
>>>>> to be redundant.
>>>>
>>>> According to drivers/mmc/host/dw_mmc-pltfm.c , the Altera SoCFPGA one
>>>> "altr,socfpga-dw-mshc" and also Imagination Technology Pistacio one
>>>> "img,pistachio-dw-mshc" need specialty bit (SDMMC_CMD_USE_HOLD_REG),
>>>> while the stock one "snps,dw-mshc" does not. I am not sure if the ARC
>>>> one needs it as well, but most likely yes.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if that bit is needed on some particular version of the DWMMC
>>>> core. In that case, should we have "snps,dw-mshc" and "snps,dw-mshc-vN"
>>>> binding ? Or should we use DT property to discern the need for this bit ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's the most common way to take into account peculiarities, add
>>> a property and handle it from the driver.
>>
>> And by "that" you mean which of those two I listed , the
>> "snps,dw-mshc-vN" or adding new DT prop ?
>>
> 
> I meant to add a new property, not a new compatible, but that's just
> my experience.
> 
> Let me say it __might__ happen that a particular change you need is
> specific to a particular version of the DWMMC IP (query Synopsys
> by the way), but more probably it might be e.g. the same IP version with
> a different reduced or extended configuration or a minor fix/improvement
> to the IP block without resulting version number bump.
> 
> For example I don't remember that errata fixes in IP blocks result in
> a new compatible, instead there are quite common optional "quirk"
> properties for broken IPs -- e.g. check bindings/usb/dwc3.txt :)

Right, this very much matches how I see it as well. Thanks for confirming.

Alexey, can you tell us if the requirement for setting
SDMMC_CMD_USE_HOLD_REG came with some new revision of the core or
disappeared with some revision OR if this is some configuration
option of the core during synthesis ?

-- 
Best regards,
Marek Vasut
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-26 20:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-26 10:14 ARC dw-mshc binding compat string Marek Vasut
2016-03-26 17:26 ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
     [not found]   ` <56F6C639.5000301-nmGgyN9QBj3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-26 17:30     ` Marek Vasut
2016-03-26 17:46       ` Alexey Brodkin
2016-03-26 17:52       ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
     [not found]         ` <56F6CC68.5040408-nmGgyN9QBj3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-26 18:10           ` Marek Vasut
2016-03-26 18:16             ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
     [not found]               ` <56F6D1E9.3050606-nmGgyN9QBj3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-26 19:52                 ` Marek Vasut
     [not found]                   ` <56F6E860.8070207-ynQEQJNshbs@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-26 20:12                     ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
     [not found]                       ` <56F6ED41.5020908-nmGgyN9QBj3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-26 20:24                         ` Marek Vasut [this message]
2016-03-28  9:37                           ` Alexey Brodkin
     [not found]                             ` <1459157818.4785.5.camel-HKixBCOQz3hWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-28 10:34                               ` Jaehoon Chung
2016-03-28 10:55                                 ` Alexey Brodkin
2016-03-28 11:44                                   ` Jaehoon Chung
2016-03-28 12:43                                 ` Rob Herring
2016-03-28 12:52                                   ` Marek Vasut
2016-03-28 12:50                                 ` Marek Vasut
2016-03-28 16:16                                   ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2016-03-28 19:00                                     ` Rob Herring

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