From: Bryan O'Donoghue <bryan.odonoghue@linaro.org>
To: Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>,
Vladimir Zapolskiy <vladimir.zapolskiy@linaro.org>,
Bryan O'Donoghue <bryan.odonoghue@linaro.org>,
Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>,
Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@kernel.org>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-phy@lists.infradead.org,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] phy: qcom-mipi-csi2: Add a CSI2 MIPI D-PHY driver
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 17:16:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <57501e81-7e9c-4cb1-9a37-18307d1e06ca@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8b908a20-0bf3-447d-82ea-a5ecee1bf54c@linaro.org>
On 21/07/2025 16:46, neil.armstrong@linaro.org wrote:
> On 15/07/2025 11:33, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
>> On 7/15/25 11:20 AM, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote:
>>> On 7/15/25 12:01, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
>>>> On 7/15/25 8:35 AM, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote:
>>>>> On 7/15/25 03:13, Bryan O'Donoghue wrote:
>>>>>> On 14/07/2025 16:30, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think that is genuinely something we should handle in camss-csid.c
>>>>>>>> maybe with some meta-data inside of the ports/endpoints..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a CSIPHY property, a CSIPHY hardware configuration and a wiring
>>>>>>> of sensors to a CSIPHY. Where is the relation to CSID here? There is no.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the PHY really needs to know is the # of lanes in aggregate, which
>>>>>> physical lanes to map to which logical lanes and the pixel clock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We should add additional support to the Kernel's D-PHY API parameters
>>>>>> mechanism to support that physical-to-logical mapping but, that's not
>>>>>> required for this series or for any currently know upstream user of CAMSS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please share at least a device tree node description, which supports
>>>>>>> a connection of two sensors to a single CSIPHY, like it shall be done
>>>>>>> expectedly.
>>>>>> &camss {
>>>>>> port@0 {
>>>>>> csiphy0_lanes01_ep: endpoint0 {
>>>>>> data-lanes = <0 1>;
>>>>>> remote-endpoint = <&sensor0_ep>;
>>>>>> };
>>>>>>
>>>>>> csiphy0_lanes23_ep: endpoint0 {
>>>>>> data-lanes = <2 3>;
>>>>>> remote-endpoint = <&sensor1_ep>;
>>>>>> };
>>>>>> };
>>>>>> };
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't you understand that this is broken?.. That's no good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please listen and reread the messages given to you above, your proposed
>>>>> "solution" does not support by design a valid hardware setup of two
>>>>> sensors connected to the same CSIPHY.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would propose to stop force pushing an uncorrectable dt scheme, it
>>>>> makes no sense.
>>>>
>>>> If all you're asking for is an ability to grab an of_graph reference
>>>> from the camss (v4l2) driver, you can simply do something along the
>>>> lines of of_graph_get_remote_port(phy->dev->of_node)
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's not about the driver specifics, my comment is about a proper
>>> hardware description in dts notation, please see the device tree node
>>> names.
>>
>> I'm a little lost on what you're trying to argue for..
>>
>> I could make out:
>>
>> 1. "the phy should be a multimedia device"
>> 2. "There is no ports at all, which makes the device tree node unusable,
>> since you can not provide a way to connect any sensors to the phy."
>>
>> I don't really understand #1.. maybe that could be the case if the PHY
>> has a multitude of tunables (which I don't know if it does, but wouldn't
>> be exactly surprised if it did) that may be usecase/pipeline-specific
>>
>> As for #2, I do think it makes sense to connect the sensors to the PHY,
>> as that's a representation of electrical signals travelling from the
>> producer to the consumer (plus the data passed in e.g. data-lanes is
>> directly related to the PHY and necessarily consumed by its driver)
>
> The port/endpoint should represent the data flow, and if the signal is the following:
>
> sensor -> csiphy -> csid
I'll be honest.
I looked at your upstreamed code
drivers/phy/amlogic/phy-meson-axg-mipi-dphy.c
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/parch/arm64/boot/dts/amlogic/meson-khadas-vim3-ts050.dtsoc/meson-axg.dtsi
And didn't really think CSIPHY needed to be included in the data-graph.
---
bod
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-21 16:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-10 16:16 [PATCH 0/2] phy: qcom-mipi-csi2: Add a CSI2 MIPI DPHY driver Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-07-10 16:16 ` [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: phy: qcom: Add MIPI CSI2 C-PHY/DPHY Combo schema Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-07-10 23:08 ` Rob Herring
2025-07-14 14:13 ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2025-07-14 14:42 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-07-15 6:40 ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2025-07-15 8:52 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-07-10 16:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] phy: qcom-mipi-csi2: Add a CSI2 MIPI D-PHY driver Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-07-10 17:08 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-11 9:14 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-07-11 11:29 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-14 14:16 ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2025-07-14 14:43 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-07-14 14:58 ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2025-07-14 15:17 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-07-14 15:26 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-14 15:30 ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2025-07-15 0:13 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-07-15 6:35 ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2025-07-15 9:01 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-15 9:20 ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2025-07-15 9:33 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-21 15:46 ` neil.armstrong
2025-07-21 16:16 ` Bryan O'Donoghue [this message]
2025-07-21 16:22 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-07-21 16:29 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-07-22 8:32 ` Neil Armstrong
2025-07-22 9:08 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-07-22 9:59 ` Neil Armstrong
2025-07-22 10:37 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-08-12 13:39 ` neil.armstrong
2025-08-12 15:05 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-08-12 16:08 ` Neil Armstrong
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