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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Arend Van Spriel <arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com>
Cc: devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Priit Laes <plaes@plaes.org>,
	linux-sunxi@googlegroups.com,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"John W . Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>, Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@csie.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Jonas Gorski <jonas.gorski@gmail.com>,
	Arend van Spriel <arend@broadcom.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
	Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: [PATCH 1/4] brcmfmac: Add brcm, nvram_file_name dt property
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2016 10:55:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5756670.9hMGo8oEyl@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac480a61-5bfd-5d0c-26fe-b85220ee5076@broadcom.com>

On Monday, July 4, 2016 10:41:20 AM CEST Arend Van Spriel wrote:
> On 2-7-2016 23:30, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 2, 2016 8:20:35 PM CEST Arend Van Spriel wrote:
> >>> If you want a separate property, then I repeat my very first
> >>> suggestion, the well defined model property.
> >>> e.g.
> >>>
> >>> brcmf@0 {
> >>>         model = "ampak,ap6210";
> >>>         compatible = "brcm,bcm4329-fmac";
> >>>         ...
> >>> };
> >>>
> >>> All device nodes may have a model property, not just the top "machine" one.
> >>
> >> I heard you the first time  I just was not sure what the implications
> >> would be to use it. Hence I suggested a vendor specific property.
> >> However, looking up and reading the definition in ePAPRv1.1 I suppose it
> >> is fine to use the model property:
> >>
> >> Property: model
> >> Value type: <string>
> >> Description:
> >> The model property value is a <string> that specifies the manufacturer’s
> >> model number of the device.
> >>
> >> The recommended format is: “manufacturer,model”, where manufacturer is a
> >> string describing the name of the manufacturer (such as a stock ticker
> >> symbol), and model specifies the model number.
> > 
> > The model property is very similar to compatible, except that there is
> > only one entry rather than a list of entries from most specific to
> > most generic.
> 
> They seem very similar, but I think there is a conceptual difference.
> The compatible property is mainly used to select the appropriate driver
> and as such the property is typically ignored by device drivers.
> Probably there are exceptions to be found.
> 
> > I think by writing the above example as
> > 
> >       compatible = "ampak,ap6210", "brcm,bcm4329-fmac";
> > 
> > we can provide the same functionality in a slightly simpler way, the driver
> > then just goes on to look for the nvram file for each entry in sequence until
> > it finds one.
> 
> Not sure why this would be simpler. Why would traversing the compatible
> string be simpler than handling the model property if present and
> otherwise fallback to the default nvram naming.

Because you have to walk the list anyway to find the other firmware files:
when you have a specialization of a device that requires listing both values
as compatible, the driver has no idea which of the entries to use, unless
you add a lookup table that adds more complexity.

	Arnd

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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-29 14:04 [PATCH 1/4] brcmfmac: Add brcm,nvram_file_name dt property Hans de Goede
     [not found] ` <1467209074-15634-1-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 14:04   ` [PATCH 2/4] ARM: dts: sun7i-a20-cubietruck: Set brcm,nvram_file_name Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1467209074-15634-2-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 17:01       ` Kalle Valo
     [not found]         ` <87wpl8c4km.fsf-5ukZ45wKbUHoml4zekdYB16hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 18:01           ` [linux-sunxi] " Hans de Goede
2016-06-29 14:04   ` [PATCH 3/4] ARM: dts: sun7i-a20-wits-pro-a20-dkt: " Hans de Goede
2016-06-29 14:04   ` [PATCH 4/4] ARM: dts: sun5i-a10s-auxtek-t004: " Hans de Goede
2016-06-29 14:42   ` [PATCH 1/4] brcmfmac: Add brcm,nvram_file_name dt property Jonas Gorski
     [not found]     ` <CAOiHx=n6itfmvwYQh+jUSDNguQFkos=MzjkDWP=GsupdgvF6KQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 15:16       ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]         ` <b49a9e4b-d591-d978-8005-413f39ebf2bd-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 17:00           ` Kalle Valo
     [not found]             ` <871t3gdj6p.fsf-5ukZ45wKbUHoml4zekdYB16hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 18:01               ` [linux-sunxi] " Hans de Goede
     [not found]                 ` <ea10ff70-26e6-e151-5cea-c54bd12a054c-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 18:51                   ` 'Arend Van Spriel' via linux-sunxi
     [not found]                     ` <f8995599-115d-87e5-7928-c029b48584f1-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 18:57                       ` 'Arend Van Spriel' via linux-sunxi
     [not found]                         ` <fa0bf74d-cba3-0853-753c-64fe049105aa-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-30  8:50                           ` Kalle Valo
2016-06-29 19:33                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-29 19:54                         ` Priit Laes
     [not found]                           ` <1467230078.2598.2.camel-q/aMd4JkU83YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-29 20:07                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-30  9:02                             ` Kalle Valo
     [not found]                               ` <87eg7f6odi.fsf-HodKDYzPHsUD5k0oWYwrnHL1okKdlPRT@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-30  9:50                                 ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]                                   ` <e94f58fe-f709-94bd-21f6-144c4e038d17-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-30  9:58                                     ` Kalle Valo
     [not found]                                       ` <87a8i36ls9.fsf-HodKDYzPHsUD5k0oWYwrnHL1okKdlPRT@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-30 10:04                                         ` [linux-sunxi] " Hans de Goede
     [not found]                                           ` <14a3aa66-5851-5537-f6cd-7681fb4cde07-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-30 10:18                                             ` Jonas Gorski
     [not found]                                               ` <CAOiHx==82LHOeQMNVD+dybFifXX690Q6AJTcMBMynjSfUOyGUw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-30 10:25                                                 ` [linux-sunxi] " Hans de Goede
     [not found]                                                   ` <8d8bd933-717b-48e4-f002-7b834abed6fd-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-30 11:31                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-30 19:23                                                       ` 'Arend Van Spriel' via linux-sunxi
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2016-07-01  8:51                                                           ` Re: [PATCH 1/4] brcmfmac: Add brcm, nvram_file_name " Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-01  8:58                                                           ` Re: [PATCH 1/4] brcmfmac: Add brcm,nvram_file_name " Jonas Gorski
     [not found]                                                             ` <CAOiHx=m8Zf0T4=BTG6BMRjj3kOHzt4YaQa3yzutmrhFSOyZMmA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-02  6:59                                                               ` Kalle Valo
2016-07-02 18:20                                                               ` 'Arend Van Spriel' via linux-sunxi
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2016-07-02 21:30                                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-04  8:41                                                                     ` [linux-sunxi] " Arend Van Spriel
2016-07-04  8:55                                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2016-07-04  9:08                                                                         ` 'Arend Van Spriel' via linux-sunxi
     [not found]                                                                           ` <6cc6dabf-e6da-d70d-3cce-a7f1804f233e-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-04 14:54                                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-04 18:36                                                                               ` 'Arend van Spriel' via linux-sunxi
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <577AAC95.7040800-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-05 13:43                                                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-06  8:08                                                                                     ` 'Arend Van Spriel' via linux-sunxi
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <CAF7Mx6qcwtwYQhrkNk8o+D6UQBLEQkL-ti7aMQyLVuRo+JMUfw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-06 13:42                                                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-06 19:19                                                                                           ` 'Arend Van Spriel' via linux-sunxi
     [not found]                                                                                             ` <bb1beb8d-652d-aa97-e24b-e3e27397dd2e-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-07  8:46                                                                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-07  9:16                                                                                                 ` 'Arend Van Spriel' via linux-sunxi
     [not found]                                                                                                   ` <27f6d3d3-4bcc-8572-4c7b-b44966ad72f4-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-07  9:24                                                                                                     ` Re: [PATCH 1/4] brcmfmac: Add brcm, nvram_file_name " Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-17 21:45                                                                                                 ` Re: [PATCH 1/4] brcmfmac: Add brcm,nvram_file_name " Rob Herring
2016-07-18  7:51                                                                                                   ` 'Arend Van Spriel' via linux-sunxi
2016-06-30  8:46                       ` Kalle Valo
     [not found]                         ` <87mvm36p4d.fsf-HodKDYzPHsUD5k0oWYwrnHL1okKdlPRT@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-30  9:33                           ` Julian Calaby
2016-06-30  9:49                           ` Hans de Goede
2016-06-30  9:53                       ` Hans de Goede
2016-07-01  2:08   ` Rob Herring
2016-07-01  8:17     ` 'Arend Van Spriel' via linux-sunxi
     [not found]       ` <b18cd232-711a-b617-2f09-09c4bdf2c3c4-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-01  9:20         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-04 16:12         ` Rob Herring

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