From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>
Cc: mark.rutland@arm.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
dedekind1@gmail.com, Hauke Mehrtens <hauke@hauke-m.de>,
robh+dt@kernel.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
computersforpeace@gmail.com, dwmw2@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] ubi: mount partitions specified in device tree
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 15:19:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <57669BEA.5030306@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160619130514.GB820@makrotopia.org>
Daniel,
Am 19.06.2016 um 15:05 schrieb Daniel Golle:
>>> The same kernel gets used on many devices having different $vendor
>>> mtd-partition layouts. A way other than the kernel cmdline allows
>>> to specify the default behaviour without restricting the user to
>>> manually use those cmdline options.
>>
>> You can put the cmdline into the per-device device tree.
>> This is the concept of a multi-device kernel. One kernel and
>> many device trees.
>
> Exactly true. However, as the mtd partitions are defined in the tree
> itself rather than using 'mtdparts=...' in the cmdline built-into the
> device-tree, it'd be nice to also select that a specific partition
> should be ubiattached.
DT already offer all you need and nothing hinders you from
using mtdparts=.
>>
>>>>
>>>>> To auto-select the rootfs, we currently carry another bunch of patches
>>>>>
>>>>> https://git.lede-project.org/?p=source.git;a=blob;f=target/linux/generic/patches-4.4/491-ubi-auto-create-ubiblock-device-for-rootfs.patch
>>>>
>>>> Same question here.
>>>>
>>>>> https://git.lede-project.org/?p=source.git;a=blob;f=target/linux/generic/patches-4.4/492-try-auto-mounting-ubi0-rootfs-in-init-do_mounts.c.patch
>>>>
>>>> Ditto.
>>>>
>>>>> https://git.lede-project.org/?p=source.git;a=blob;f=target/linux/generic/patches-4.4/493-ubi-set-ROOT_DEV-to-ubiblock-rootfs-if-unset.patch
>>>>
>>>> Ditto.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Same arguments as above. In addition, we do not want to hard-code the
>>> filesystem type used for the rootfs volume, as it can either be UBIFS
>>> or a read-only filesystem needing a ubiblock device. Thus we would
>>> need the bootloader to know which filesystem *type* is being used and
>>> then decide wether to pass 'rootfs=ubiX:Y' or
>>> 'ubiblock=... rootfs=/dev/ubiblock0'.
>>
>> What is wrong with having a very minimal initramfs to do such an
>> auto discovery logic?
>
> Sorry, but we are not talking about traditional desktop or server
> systems. OpenWrt/LEDE runs on devices with as little as 32 MB of RAM
> and 4 MB of Flash. Devices with UBI will typically have at least
> 32 MB of NAND Flash, but still not necessarily a lot of RAM.
> Have a look at
> https://git.lede-project.org/?p=source.git;a=blob;f=target/linux/lantiq/dts/BTHOMEHUBV2B.dts
> for a good example of the type of hardware we are talking about.
I didn't recommend adding glibc+systemd in the initramfs. It can be very, very small
and trivial.
At least it would be much more clean than your pile of not so fancy MTD/UBI patches.
> Apart from that we already automatically generate initramfs-based
> images for devices to be used in situations where you cannot or don't
> want to touch the devices' flash.
The initramfs can be part of the kernel image. No additional file needed.
>> This is something you need to discuss wit DT folks.
>> I'm not per se against UBI DT bindings it just does not feel right
>> and contradicts my understanding of it.
>
> I agree with your view when it comes to describing UBI volumes
> in the device tree. That's wrong just as it would be wrong to add
> DT bindings for LVM2.
> As said previously, the situation is different for flash chips having
> partitions defined for use with UBI on some boards.
Everything can be done with the existing framework. DT binding maybe be nice
for your use case but I fear it is not applicable.
Thanks,
//richard
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2016-06-18 19:17 [PATCH 1/2] ubi: mount partitions specified in device tree Hauke Mehrtens
[not found] ` <1466277476-14853-1-git-send-email-hauke-5/S+JYg5SzeELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-18 19:17 ` [PATCH 2/2] ubi: open volumes define " Hauke Mehrtens
[not found] ` <1466277476-14853-2-git-send-email-hauke-5/S+JYg5SzeELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-18 23:36 ` Daniel Golle
[not found] ` <20160618233654.GC29476-g5gK2j5usbvCyp4qypjU+w@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-19 21:21 ` Hauke Mehrtens
2016-06-24 18:45 ` Ezequiel Garcia
[not found] ` <CAAEAJfATWJL0fGEcBup+cWzhHUe_4CF4XHWuvp4NYOesmaTyZw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-25 20:24 ` Hauke Mehrtens
2016-06-18 23:56 ` [PATCH 1/2] ubi: mount partitions specified " Daniel Golle
2016-06-19 21:36 ` Hauke Mehrtens
[not found] ` <ecb7950d-9e07-5c5d-6668-1c67ba170ddf-5/S+JYg5SzeELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-19 21:52 ` Daniel Golle
2016-06-18 19:30 ` Richard Weinberger
[not found] ` <5765A14F.6020201-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-18 19:35 ` Hauke Mehrtens
2016-06-18 23:20 ` Daniel Golle
[not found] ` <20160618232054.GB29476-g5gK2j5usbvCyp4qypjU+w@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-19 8:53 ` Richard Weinberger
[not found] ` <57665D96.1070804-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-19 9:16 ` Richard Weinberger
2016-06-19 11:25 ` Daniel Golle
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2016-06-19 12:02 ` Richard Weinberger
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2016-06-19 13:05 ` Daniel Golle
2016-06-19 13:19 ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
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2016-06-19 14:09 ` Daniel Golle
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2016-06-19 14:35 ` Richard Weinberger
[not found] ` <5766AD99.1040809-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-19 15:24 ` Daniel Golle
2016-06-19 15:31 ` Richard Weinberger
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2016-06-19 16:13 ` Daniel Golle
2016-06-19 16:53 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-06-19 19:42 ` Daniel Golle
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2016-06-19 20:14 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-06-19 21:48 ` Daniel Golle
[not found] ` <20160619214820.GB1222-g5gK2j5usbvCyp4qypjU+w@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-19 22:21 ` Hauke Mehrtens
2016-06-20 8:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-20 8:26 ` Richard Weinberger
2016-06-20 15:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-20 17:24 ` Brian Norris
2016-06-20 19:57 ` Richard Weinberger
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2016-06-20 21:18 ` Hauke Mehrtens
2016-06-20 17:05 ` Brian Norris
[not found] ` <20160619152445.GG820-g5gK2j5usbvCyp4qypjU+w@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-19 15:43 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-06-19 16:23 ` Daniel Golle
2016-06-20 17:03 ` Brian Norris
[not found] ` <48242f26-7812-6957-6bf5-c12989b875b4-5/S+JYg5SzeELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-18 19:46 ` Richard Weinberger
[not found] ` <5765A4F9.3050107-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-18 22:54 ` Hauke Mehrtens
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2016-06-19 8:41 ` Richard Weinberger
2016-06-24 18:28 ` Ezequiel Garcia
[not found] ` <CAAEAJfC8mYnohRxKg0b-onbGadk0vPDty=7Bh8emP92mazB=aA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-25 20:20 ` Hauke Mehrtens
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2016-06-25 20:33 ` Richard Weinberger
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