From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Chanwoo Choi Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 07/12] PM / devfreq: export devfreq_class Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 17:18:40 +0900 Message-ID: <5B616CE0.50400@samsung.com> References: <20180703234705.227473-1-mka@chromium.org> <20180703234705.227473-8-mka@chromium.org> <5B3C5B78.6020401@samsung.com> <20180706180923.GH129942@google.com> <41164a91-b271-5f3b-b461-21ff5997cc84@samsung.com> <20180716194114.GA129942@google.com> <20180731192904.GG68975@google.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Return-path: In-reply-to: <20180731192904.GG68975@google.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Matthias Kaehlcke Cc: MyungJoo Ham , Kyungmin Park , Arnd Bergmann , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Rob Herring , Mark Rutland , linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Brian Norris , Douglas Anderson , Enric Balletbo i Serra , "Rafael J . Wysocki" , Viresh Kumar , Lee Jones , Benson Leung , Olof Johansson List-Id: devicetree@vger.kernel.org Hi Matthias, On 2018년 08월 01일 04:29, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 12:41:14PM -0700, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote: >> Hi Chanwoo, >> >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 06:08:36PM +0900, Chanwoo Choi wrote: >>> Hi Matthias, >>> >>> On 2018년 07월 07일 03:09, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 02:30:32PM +0900, Chanwoo Choi wrote: >>>> >>>>> I didn't see any framework which exporting the class instance. >>>>> It is very dangerous. Unknown device drivers is able to reset >>>>> the 'devfreq_class' instance. I can't agree this approach. >>>> >>>> While I agree that it is potential dangerous it is actually a common >>>> practice to export the class: >>>> >>> >>> I tried to find the real usage of exported class instance >>> and I add the comment for each class instance. Almost exported class >>> instance are used in the their own director or some exported class >>> like rio_mport_class/switchtec_class are created from specific device driver >>> instead of subsystem. >>> >>> Only following two cases are used on outside of subsystem directory. >>> devtmpfs.c and alarmtimer.c are core feature of linux kernel. >>> >>> drivers/base/devtmpfs.c uses 'block_class'. >>> kernel/time/alarmtimer.c uses 'rtc_class'. >>> >>> I cannot yet agree this approach due to only block_class and rtc_class. >> >> I thought your main concern was that the class is exported, which is >> what several other subsystems do. That the class isn't used outside of >> the subsystem directory most likely means that there is no need for >> it, rather than that it shouldn't be done at all (depending on the >> type of use of course). >> >> In any case not exporting the class object provides a limited >> protection against potential abuse of the class at best. To use the >> class API all that is needed is a 'struct device' of a devfreq device, >> which has a pointer to the class object (dev->class). >> >> Theoretically I could register a fake devfreq device to obtain access >> to the class object, though that doesn't seem a very neat approach ;-) >> >>> You added the following comment why devfreq_class instance is necessary. >>> Actullay, I don't know the best solution right now. But, all device drivers >>> can be added or removed if driver uses the module type. It is not a problem >>> for only devfreq instance. >> >> Certainly it's not a problem limited to devfreq devices. In many other >> cases bus notifiers can be used, but since devfreq devices areen't >> tied to a specific bus this is not an option here. >> >> If you really don't want to export the class we could add wrappers >> for (un)registering a class interface: >> >> int devfreq_class_interface_register(struct class_interface *) >> void devfreq_class_interface_unregister(struct class_interface *) About this approach, I agree because it doesn't export the devfreq_class instance as you commented. >> >> The wrappers would have to assign ci->class since the throttler >> can't see the class object. >> >> Or add notifiers for device addition/removal, though the throttler >> relies on the behavior of the class_interface which also notifies >> about devices added before registration. This might not be what other >> potential users of the notifiers expect. > > Ping > > Could we please try to find a solution/reach a conclusion for this? > > Not that it should affect the outcome of this discussion, but I want > to mention that from my point of view it is a bit unfortunate that > this and other fundamental concerns were only raised after I spent > significant time on repeatedly refactoring the throttler driver to > address other comments. Since you and MyungJoo Ham previously had only > minor comments on the other devfreq patches in this series I assumed > there were no major concerns from your side :( > > -- Best Regards, Chanwoo Choi Samsung Electronics