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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
Cc: Prabhakar Lad <prabhakar.csengg@gmail.com>,
	Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>,
	DLOS <davinci-linux-open-source@linux.davincidsp.com>,
	LMML <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	LAK <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Sekhar Nori <nsekhar@ti.com>, LDOC <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>, Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] media: i2c: adv7343: fix the DT binding properties
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:44:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6800560.AEqRA3IBkp@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5240B396.2010705@wwwdotorg.org>

On Monday 23 September 2013 15:33:10 Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 09/23/2013 05:50 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Monday 23 September 2013 08:18:52 Prabhakar Lad wrote:
> >> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
> >>> On 09/20/2013 10:11 AM, Prabhakar Lad wrote:
> >>>> OK I will, just send out a fix up patch which fixes the mismatch
> >>>> between
> >>>> names for the rc-cycle, and later send out a patch which removes the
> >>>> platform data usage for next release with proper DT bindings.
> >>> 
> >>> I think the binding need to be fully corrected now, I just meant to not
> >>> touch the board file, i.e. leave non-dt support unchanged.
> >> 
> >> Ok
> >> 
> >>>> I'm OK with making regulator properties as optional, But still it would
> >>>> change the meaning of what DT is, we know that the VDD/VDD_IO .. etc
> >>>> pins are required properties (but still making them as optional) :-(
> >>>> 
> >>>> I think there might several devices where this situation may arise so
> >>>> just thinking of a alternative solution.
> >>>> 
> >>>> say we have property 'software-regulator' which takes true/false(0/1)
> >>>> If set to true we make the regulators as required property or else we
> >>>> assume it is handled and ignore it ?
> >>> 
> >>> I don't think this is a good idea. You would have to add a similar
> >>> platform data flag for non-dt, it doesn't sound right. I can see two
> >>> options here:
> >>> 
> >>> 1. Make the regulator properties mandatory and, e.g. define a fixed
> >>> 
> >>>    voltage GPIO regulator in DT with an empty 'gpio' property. Then
> >>>    pass a phandle to that regulator in the adv7343 *-supply properties.
> >>>    For non-dt similarly a fixed voltage regulator(s) and voltage
> >>>    supplies  would need to be defined in the board files.
> >>> 
> >>> 2. Make the properties optional and use (devm_)regulator_get_optional()
> >>> 
> >>>    calls in the driver (a recently added function). I must admit I don't
> >>>    fully understand description of this function, it currently looks
> >>>    pretty much same as (devm_)regulator_get(). Thus the driver would
> >>>    need to be handling regulator supplies only when non ERR_PTR() is
> >>>    returned from regulator_get_optional() and otherwise assume a non
> >>>    critical error. There is already quite a few example occurrences of
> >>>    regulator_get_optional() usage.
> >> 
> >> Thanks for pointing it I'll choose option 2 and post the patch.
> > 
> > Isn't regulator_get_optional() intended for devices that can have supplies
> > unconnected in normal use ?
> 
> I believe so, yes.
> 
> > The ADV7343 supplies are mandatory from a hardware
> > point of view, so I think we should use regulator_get(). Otherwise the
> > driver won't be able to tell the difference between a regulator that
> > isn't present yet (for instance because the regulator device/driver
> > hasn't been probed yet), which should result in deferred probing, and an
> > always-on regulator that has been left out.
> 
> So I think you want to make the supply properties mandatory in DT (since
> some form of supply is mandatory in HW), yet make the driver support
> broken DTs which don't have those properties, by error-checking the
> return value from regulator_get(). You might want to put a note into DT
> saying that a previous version of the binding didn't require those
> supply properties, so they may be missing from older DTs.

Are there such devices in the wild ?

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-24  9:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-13 11:57 [PATCH] media: i2c: adv7343: fix the DT binding properties Prabhakar Lad
     [not found] ` <1379073471-7244-1-git-send-email-prabhakar.csengg-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-13 22:46   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]     ` <523395DC.5080009-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-14  5:23       ` Prabhakar Lad
     [not found]         ` <CA+V-a8sVyJ1TrTSiaj8vpaD+f_qJ5Hp287E3HuHJ_pRzzmdAvg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-16 16:24           ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]             ` <523730A8.9060201-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-19 16:06               ` Prabhakar Lad
     [not found]                 ` <CA+V-a8vY-qsdUoUUH=3HOg-UAZZPujOLPHFC_udNWFtksgzRRA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-19 19:49                   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
     [not found]                     ` <523B554A.2030701-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-20  8:11                       ` Prabhakar Lad
     [not found]                         ` <CA+V-a8s3PYr7qem6m8au0E7N2Xb_gD37_8uLcdXZjeHppBaC6g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-20  9:52                           ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-09-23  2:48                             ` Prabhakar Lad
     [not found]                               ` <CA+V-a8u5_rhxTgkVgCbtmGpaZCt2ciu4vABW4t80aSp7csttnw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-23 11:50                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-09-23 21:33                                   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                     ` <5240B396.2010705-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-24  6:15                                       ` Prabhakar Lad
2013-09-24  9:44                                     ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2013-09-24 15:52                                       ` Mark Brown
2013-09-24 15:54                                   ` Mark Brown
2013-09-30 13:27                               ` Prabhakar Lad
2013-09-30 14:41                                 ` Laurent Pinchart

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