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From: "Rafał Miłecki" <zajec5@gmail.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-leds@vger.kernel.org, openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org,
	"Rafał Miłecki" <rafal@milecki.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH dt-schema] schemas: chosen: Add OpenWrt LEDs properties for system states
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 17:38:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <69966efa-21ab-4a38-ad06-61e7e2e5b6d3@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1b90c50c-0a09-4627-83cd-1794dae7ed9b@linaro.org>

On 9.01.2024 10:02, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 09/01/2024 09:23, Rafał Miłecki wrote:
>> From: Rafał Miłecki <rafal@milecki.pl>
>>
>> OpenWrt project provides downstream support for thousands of embedded
>> home network devices. Its custom requirement for DT is to provide info
>> about LEDs roles. Currently it does it by using custom non-documented
>> aliases. While formally valid (aliases.yaml doesn't limit names or
>> purposes of aliases) it's quite a loose solution.
>>
>> Document 4 precise "chosen" biding properties with clearly documented
>> OpenWrt usage. This will allow upstreaming tons of DTS files that noone
> 
> typo: none

typo: no one ;)

>> cared about so far as those would need to be patched downstream anyway.
> 
>  From all this description I understand why you want to add it, but I
> don't understand what are you exactly adding and how it is being used by
> the users/OS.

In OpenWrt we have user space script that reads LED full path:
cat /proc/device-tree/aliases/led-<foo>

And then sets LED to state matching current boot stage:
echo 1 > /sys/class/leds/<bar>/brightness


>> Signed-off-by: Rafał Miłecki <rafal@milecki.pl>
>> ---
>> A few weeks ago I was seeking for a help regarding OpenWrt's need for
>> specifing LEDs roles in DT, see:
>>
>> Describing LEDs roles in device tree?
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-devicetree/ee912a89-4fd7-43c3-a79b-16659a035fe1@gmail.com/T/#u
>>
>> I DON'T think OpenWrt's current solution with aliases is good enough:
>> * It's not clearly documented
>> * It may vary from other projects usa case
>> * It may be refused by random maintainers I think
>>
>> I decided to suggest 4 OpenWrt-prefixed properties for "chosen". I'm
>> hoping this small custom binding is sth we could go with. I'm really
>> looking forward to upstreaming OpenWrt's downstream DTS files so other
>> projects (e.g. Buildroot) can use them.
>>
>> If you have any better fitting solution in mind please let me know. I
>> should be fine with anything that lets me solve this downstream mess
>> situation.
>>
>>   dtschema/schemas/chosen.yaml | 9 +++++++++
>>   1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/dtschema/schemas/chosen.yaml b/dtschema/schemas/chosen.yaml
>> index 6d5c3f1..96d0db7 100644
>> --- a/dtschema/schemas/chosen.yaml
>> +++ b/dtschema/schemas/chosen.yaml
>> @@ -264,4 +264,13 @@ properties:
>>   patternProperties:
>>     "^framebuffer": true
>>   
>> +  "^openwrt,led-(boot|failsafe|running|upgrade)$":
>> +    $ref: types.yaml#/definitions/string
>> +    description:
>> +      OpenWrt choice of LED for a given role.
> 
> Neither this explains it. What is "OpenWrt choice"? Choice like what?
> What are the valid choices?
> 
>> Value must be a full path (encoded
>> +      as a string) to a relevant LED node.
> 
> What do you mean by full path? DT node path? Then no, use phandles.
> 
> Anyway, we have existing properties for this - LED functions. Just
> choose LED with given function (from sysfs) and you are done. If
> function is missing in the header: feel free to go, least for me.

In "Describing LEDs roles in device tree?" e-mail I wrote:

"
Please note that "function" on its own is not sufficient as multiple
LEDs my share the same function name but its meaning may vary depending
on color.
"

Let me elaborate here.

Values of "function" property match LEDs descriptions (usually it's a
physical label). That is OK and makes sense but doesn't allow OpenWrt to
automatically pick proper LED to use during given boot stage.

Some devices may have multiple color of a the same LED function. OpenWrt
developer needs to choose which color to use for failsafe more and which
boot fully booted state (and others too).

Devices also differ in available LEDs by their functions. Some may have
LED_FUNCTION_POWER that OpenWrt needs to use. Some may have
LED_FUNCTION_STATUS. Or both. There are some more (less common)
functions like LED_FUNCTION_ACTIVITY.

We failed at OpenWrt to develop a single generic script to rule all
devices and all their LEDs combinations. We ended up with developers
*choosing* what LED to use for a given system state.


> Also: please Cc LED maintainers on all future submissions of this.
Included them (apart from linux-leds@ already present) now, thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-09 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-09  8:23 [PATCH dt-schema] schemas: chosen: Add OpenWrt LEDs properties for system states Rafał Miłecki
2024-01-09  9:02 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-09 16:38   ` Rafał Miłecki [this message]
2024-01-09 19:10     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-09 21:08       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-01-10  7:28         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-09 21:48       ` Rafał Miłecki
2024-01-10  7:40         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski

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