From: tessolveupstream@gmail.com
To: Luca Ceresoli <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>,
andrzej.hajda@intel.com, neil.armstrong@linaro.org,
rfoss@kernel.org, Marek Vasut <marex@nabladev.com>,
Alexander Stein <alexander.stein@ew.tq-group.com>
Cc: Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com, jonas@kwiboo.se,
jernej.skrabec@gmail.com, maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com,
mripard@kernel.org, tzimmermann@suse.de, airlied@gmail.com,
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conor+dt@kernel.org, marex@denx.de, valentin@compulab.co.il,
philippe.schenker@toradex.com, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] drm: bridge: ti-sn65dsi83: Add support for dual-link LVDS video mode
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2026 16:40:02 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6f39409e-1cf7-4e8e-8656-2e25135ae156@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <35eed359-8088-4ec0-9e16-e5cb31e0952e@gmail.com>
On 06-04-2026 14:05, tessolveupstream@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> On 18-03-2026 14:22, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
>> Hello Sudarshan,
>>
>> On Wed Mar 18, 2026 at 6:53 AM CET, tessolveupstream wrote:
>>>>> + if (ctx->dual_link_video_mode) {
>>>>> + regmap_write(ctx->regmap, REG_RC_LVDS_PLL, 0x05);
>>>>> + regmap_write(ctx->regmap, REG_RC_PLL_EN, 0x00);
>>>>> + regmap_write(ctx->regmap, REG_DSI_CLK, 0x53);
>>>>> + regmap_write(ctx->regmap, REG_LVDS_FMT, 0x6f);
>>>>> + regmap_write(ctx->regmap, REG_LVDS_VCOM, 0x00);
>>>>> + regmap_write(ctx->regmap,
>>>>> + REG_VID_CHA_VERTICAL_DISPLAY_SIZE_LOW, 0x00);
>>>>> + regmap_write(ctx->regmap,
>>>>> + REG_VID_CHA_VERTICAL_DISPLAY_SIZE_HIGH, 0x00);
>>>>> + regmap_write(ctx->regmap,
>>>>> + REG_VID_CHA_HSYNC_PULSE_WIDTH_LOW, 0x10);
>>>>> + regmap_write(ctx->regmap,
>>>>> + REG_VID_CHA_HORIZONTAL_BACK_PORCH, 0x28);
>>>>> + regmap_write(ctx->regmap,
>>>>> + REG_VID_CHA_VERTICAL_BACK_PORCH, 0x00);
>>>>> + regmap_write(ctx->regmap,
>>>>> + REG_VID_CHA_HORIZONTAL_FRONT_PORCH, 0x00);
>>>>> + regmap_write(ctx->regmap,
>>>>> + REG_VID_CHA_VERTICAL_FRONT_PORCH, 0x00);
>>>>> + }
>>>>
>>>> I guess these hard-coded values are sepcific to your panel. They must
>>>> instead be computed based on the timings in order to work for every panel.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The hard-coded values were initially derived from the TI DSI Tuner output
>>> during our bring-up testing. TI had also mentioned that when PATGEN is
>>> enabled with dual-LVDS output on the SN65DSI84, the horizontal timings
>>> must be divided by 2. They also noted that the current driver does not
>>> appear to divide the horizontal timings when PATGEN is enabled in
>>> dual-LVDS mode.
>>>
>>> Based on that suggestion, we had tried adjusting the horizontal timing
>>> registers accordingly to match the tuner output.
>>> Could you please advise how these register values are expected to be
>>> derived from the mode timings so that they work correctly for different
>>> panels?
>>
>> Well, the principle is quite simple:
>>
>> 1. the panel docs tell you which timings the panel needs, e.g. HBP must be
>> 10 clock cycles
>>
>> 2. your panel description in dts or implementation in a panel driver will
>> then be written accordingly
>>
>> 3. the ti-sn65dsi83 driver will receive a struct drm_display_mode* with
>> these values
>>
>> 4. based on those values it sets the registers so the SN65DSI84 uses the
>> timings required by the panel (with a bit of math if needed):
>>
>> regmap_write(ctx->regmap, REG_VID_CHA_HORIZONTAL_BACK_PORCH,
>> mode->htotal - mode->hsync_end);
>>
>> Same for all other timings.
>>
>> Ti is more complicated if more cases need to be handled, such as dual-LVDS,
>> and the chip documentation is vague about what must be done in those cases.
>>
>> I suggested next steps to move forward in reply to the cover letter.
>>
>
> Thank you so much for your suggestion.
>
>>>>> @@ -965,9 +1001,15 @@ static int sn65dsi83_host_attach(struct sn65dsi83 *ctx)
>>>>>
>>>>> dsi->lanes = dsi_lanes;
>>>>> dsi->format = MIPI_DSI_FMT_RGB888;
>>>>> - dsi->mode_flags = MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO | MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO_BURST |
>>>>> - MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO_NO_HFP | MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO_NO_HBP |
>>>>> - MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO_NO_HSA | MIPI_DSI_MODE_NO_EOT_PACKET;
>>>>> + if (ctx->dual_link_video_mode)
>>>>> + dsi->mode_flags = MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO;
>>>>> + else
>>>>> + dsi->mode_flags = MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO |
>>>>> + MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO_BURST |
>>>>> + MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO_NO_HFP |
>>>>> + MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO_NO_HBP |
>>>>> + MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO_NO_HSA |
>>>>> + MIPI_DSI_MODE_NO_EOT_PACKET;
>>>>
>>>> There is no explanation about this, can you elaborate on why?
>>>>
>>>> I'm working on bringing up a dual-LVDS panel on a board with the SN65DSI84,
>>>> and the removing MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO_BURST seems to help, but I still have
>>>> no idea why. Should you have any info, maybe from TI, it would be very
>>>> interesting.
>>>>
>>>
>>> During our earlier bring-up, TI mentioned that one possible reason for the DSI
>>> REFCLK not behaving as expected could be that the DSI output is configured in
>>> burst mode instead of non-burst mode. In burst mode the DSI clock may not be
>>> continuous, whereas non-burst mode provides a more predictable DSI clock.
>>
>> Uhm, this is a bit vague. They basically said "burst can be more
>> problematic than continuous", which is obvious, and "try disabling burst
>> and see whether it helps" with no explanation on why one works and not the
>> other. Shoudl you have more info from them you'd be welcome to share it. In
>> particular, is disabling burst mode specifically related to dual-LVDS, or
>> just a way to (try to) get rid of some problems without a clear
>> understanding?
>>
>> On my side I also have a dual-LVDS panel connected to a SN65DSI84, which
>> works only by disabling burst mode. I haven't tried upstreaming it because
>> I don't have an explanation of why it fixes the panel and so I have no idea
>> how to teach the driver when it should disable burst mode.
>>
>> Additionally inyour patch you remove many other flags. Any explanation from
>> those?
>>
>
> Thanks for your inputs.
>
> I wanted to share a quick observation from our side. With your suggested 3
> patches (links below), the panel started working after simplifying the
> dsi-> mode_flags:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260226-ti-sn65dsi83-dual-lvds-fixes-and-test-pattern-v1-1-2e15f5a9a6a0@bootlin.com/
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260226-ti-sn65dsi83-dual-lvds-fixes-and-test-pattern-v1-2-2e15f5a9a6a0@bootlin.com/
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20260309-ti-sn65dsi83-dual-lvds-fixes-and-test-pattern-v2-1-e6aaa7e1d181@bootlin.com/
>
> Earlier configuration:
>
> MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO | MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO_BURST |
> MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO_NO_HFP | MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO_NO_HBP |
> MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO_NO_HSA | MIPI_DSI_MODE_NO_EOT_PACKET;
>
> Working configuration:
>
> MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO | MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO_NO_HSA |
> MIPI_DSI_MODE_NO_EOT_PACKET;
>
> From our testing, removing MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO_BURST along with the NO_HFP/NO_HBP
> flags results in stable LVDS output in dual-link mode.
>
> Could you please suggest how you would prefer to handle this change for
> upstreaming?
>
I wanted to revisit the earlier discussion and share a consolidated summary
of our observations below.
With your suggested patches (links below), the panel started working after
simplifying the dsi->mode_flags:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260226-ti-sn65dsi83-dual-lvds-fixes-and-test-pattern-v1-1-2e15f5a9a6a0@bootlin.com/
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260226-ti-sn65dsi83-dual-lvds-fixes-and-test-pattern-v1-2-2e15f5a9a6a0@bootlin.com/
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20260309-ti-sn65dsi83-dual-lvds-fixes-and-test-pattern-v2-1-e6aaa7e1d181@bootlin.com/
Working 'dsi-> mode_flags' configuration is:
dsi->mode_flags = MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO | MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO_NO_HSA |
MIPI_DSI_MODE_NO_EOT_PACKET;
From our testing, removing MIPI_DSI_MODE_VIDEO_BURST along with the NO_HFP
and NO_HBP flags results in stable LVDS output in dual-link mode.
Also I am sharing an update from our side after consulting the 'dsi->
mode_flags' behavior with the TI expert.
Based on their inputs:
1. The SN65DSI83/84 reconstructs LVDS timing from the incoming DSI stream
and requires explicit horizontal blanking (HFP/HBP) to do so reliably.
2. Suppressing HFP/HBP prevents correct timing reconstruction and can
result in unstable LVDS output, even when register timings are programmed.
3. DSI burst mode is supported, but depending on the host controller, it may
result in non‑continuous DSI clocking and HS/LP transitions.
4. Non‑burst (continuous) DSI video mode provides a more stable and
predictable timing stream, which is better suited for LVDS panels.
5. Ensuring continuous DSI video with standard horizontal blanking has been
observed to produce stable LVDS operation, particularly in dual‑link
configurations.
Given these observations, we would appreciate your guidance on how to
proceed with up-streaming.
>> Best regards,
>> Luca
>>
>> --
>> Luca Ceresoli, Bootlin
>> Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
>> https://bootlin.com
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-08 11:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-12 4:37 [PATCH v2 0/2] drm: bridge: ti-sn65dsi83: Improve dual-link LVDS support Sudarshan Shetty
2026-03-12 4:37 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] dt-bindings: display: bridge: ti,sn65dsi83: Add dual-link video mode property Sudarshan Shetty
2026-03-12 15:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] dt-bindings: display: bridge: ti, sn65dsi83: " Luca Ceresoli
2026-03-13 8:55 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-18 5:48 ` tessolveupstream
2026-03-18 5:49 ` tessolveupstream
2026-03-12 4:37 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] drm: bridge: ti-sn65dsi83: Add support for dual-link LVDS video mode Sudarshan Shetty
2026-03-12 15:47 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-03-18 5:53 ` tessolveupstream
2026-03-18 8:52 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-04-06 8:32 ` tessolveupstream
2026-04-06 8:35 ` tessolveupstream
2026-04-08 11:10 ` tessolveupstream [this message]
2026-03-12 5:05 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] drm: bridge: ti-sn65dsi83: Improve dual-link LVDS support Marek Vasut
2026-03-12 12:35 ` tessolveupstream
2026-03-12 15:49 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-03-18 5:45 ` tessolveupstream
2026-03-18 8:51 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-03-19 9:55 ` tessolveupstream
2026-03-19 13:47 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-03-24 11:00 ` tessolveupstream
2026-03-24 11:10 ` Alexander Stein
2026-03-25 6:09 ` tessolveupstream
2026-03-25 7:14 ` Alexander Stein
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