From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Michal Simek Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm: dts: Add support for National Instruments Project Sulfur SDRs Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 07:42:55 +0200 Message-ID: <78aba405-5c2b-7c8c-bc41-6e93b3ff8563@xilinx.com> References: <20170911232223.91894-1-mdf@kernel.org> <314acb1f-1f0f-7893-70a8-9379c01112ac@xilinx.com> <20170925161136.GA12943@tyrael.ni.corp.natinst.com> <6b87e902-3201-6710-4921-d465dea19dcd@xilinx.com> <20170926175018.GA14962@tyrael.ni.corp.natinst.com> <3b41cfc0-08b7-853d-3439-7f9848d04d3c@balister.org> <58fe4e6c-8765-bd9a-0698-8f8326f95e40@xilinx.com> <20171006161808.GA14871@tyrael.ni.corp.natinst.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20171006161808.GA14871@tyrael.ni.corp.natinst.com> Content-Language: en-US Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Moritz Fischer , Michal Simek Cc: Philip Balister , devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, robh+dt@kernel.org, mark.rutland@arm.com, linux@armlinux.org.uk, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, davem@davemloft.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann List-Id: devicetree@vger.kernel.org On 6.10.2017 18:18, Moritz Fischer wrote: > On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 01:49:44PM +0200, Michal Simek wrote: >> On 26.9.2017 20:15, Philip Balister wrote: >>> On 09/26/2017 02:06 PM, Michal Simek wrote: >>>> On 26.9.2017 19:58, Philip Balister wrote: >>>>> On 09/26/2017 01:50 PM, Moritz Fischer wrote: >>>>>> Michal, >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 02:54:48PM +0200, Michal Simek wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 25.9.2017 18:11, Moritz Fischer wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Michal, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:19:44AM +0200, Michal Simek wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi Moritz >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> sorry for delay. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12.9.2017 01:22, Moritz Fischer wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Add support for the National Instruments Project Sulfur SDR >>>>>>>>>> motherboards Rev 2,3 and 4. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Moritz Fischer >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> arch/arm/boot/dts/Makefile | 3 + >>>>>>>>>> arch/arm/boot/dts/zynq-ni-sulfur-rev2.dts | 84 +++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>>>>> arch/arm/boot/dts/zynq-ni-sulfur-rev3.dts | 118 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>>>>> arch/arm/boot/dts/zynq-ni-sulfur-rev4.dts | 26 ++++++ >>>>>>>>>> arch/arm/boot/dts/zynq-ni-sulfur.dtsi | 133 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>>>>> 5 files changed, 364 insertions(+) >>>>>>>>>> create mode 100644 arch/arm/boot/dts/zynq-ni-sulfur-rev2.dts >>>>>>>>>> create mode 100644 arch/arm/boot/dts/zynq-ni-sulfur-rev3.dts >>>>>>>>>> create mode 100644 arch/arm/boot/dts/zynq-ni-sulfur-rev4.dts >>>>>>>>>> create mode 100644 arch/arm/boot/dts/zynq-ni-sulfur.dtsi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is this publicly available board? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Will be in Q1 2018 was announced at GRCon'17 ([1]). >>>>>>>> Some of the Rev3s are currently deployed in Norway as part of a radar >>>>>>>> system. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am not quite sure we should apply these dts files. There are a lot of >>>>>>>>> boards with zynq and there must be any strong argument for applying this >>>>>>>>> to the tree. For arm32 with even flat tree structure. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What's the issue with merging them, except for having 3 more files? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For me this is not a problem because on Linux side it is not increasing >>>>>>> build time. >>>>>>> I want to see the value for community. All xilinx platforms are >>>>>>> evaluation generic purpose boards which are showing how to connect stuff >>>>>>> together. >>>>>>> On the other hand this is real product. >>>>>> >>>>>> Uh. >>>>>> >>>>>>> I would let arm-soc maintainer to decide if this is fine or not. I >>>>>>> definitely don't want to end up in situation that we will have dts for >>>>>>> real products which are not bringing any value for others. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure, it's the maintainers call. >>>>>> >>>>>> I do intend to have my customers run mainline on it eventually, currently >>>>>> I'm a handful of patches away from making that happen. So yes, running >>>>>> mainline is a usecase that matters to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is one thing to keep bitching about vendor kernels as a community >>>>>> continuously, but then if someone goes through the effort and actually >>>>>> tries to run mainline, you give them crap like that above. >>>>>> >>>>>> Our products usually come with full schematics [1], firmware, fpga code and all >>>>>> available, I don't know what makes them less useful to the community as a >>>>>> platform to experiment and develop on than Xilinx eval boards. >>>>>> >>>>>> There's several people that I know of both hobbyists and companies that >>>>>> build systems around these platforms, so I don't know ... >>>>> >>>>> I expect this product to be delivered with full source and a mainline >>>>> kernel, so lets make it easy for Moritz to do the right thing here. This >>>>> makes long term support of this product much easier. >>>>> >>>>> Acked-by: Philip Balister >>>> >>>> I think this is the right way to go. Get ACK from Arnd or Olof or Kevin >>>> and I will merge this. >>>> I am simply just afraid that if a lot of zynq customers will ask for it >>>> we can will end up with a lot of zynq/zynqmp based dts files in the >>>> kernel and arm-soc guys will stop this that it is simply too much and >>>> won't accept +1 case. >>> >>> I share the same concerns. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem like any >>> other structured way to manage dts files. >>> >>> As an OpenEmbedded guy, I know I can carry them with BSP's, but not >>> everyone uses OpenEmbedded. I'd love to see a long term scalable >>> solution for tracking dts files, but that is outside the scope of >>> Moritz's request. >> >> Are you guys coming to ELCE? There will be Devicetree Workshop which >> will be good place to talk about this. > > Yeah, it's on Thursday, right? Yep Thursday but no exact time yet. M