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From: Kevin Hilman <khilman-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Jon Hunter <jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 12/16] Documentation: DT: bindings: Add power domain info for NVIDIA PMC
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 16:42:29 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7hmvtcbkzu.fsf@deeprootsystems.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56681F9A.6080200-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> (Jon Hunter's message of "Wed, 9 Dec 2015 12:33:30 +0000")

Jon Hunter <jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:

> On 09/12/15 12:23, Jon Hunter wrote:
>> 
>> On 08/12/15 19:07, Kevin Hilman wrote:
>>> Jon Hunter <jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> Add power-domain binding documentation for the NVIDIA PMC driver in
>>>> order to support generic power-domains.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Jon Hunter <jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Please note that I have been debating whether I add this
>>>> "nvidia,powergate-clock-disable" property or just leave the clocks
>>>> disabled by default. Some downstream kernels leave the clocks enabled
>>>> for the audio power-domain because the clocks required for powering up
>>>> the power-domain are needed by all modules within the power-domain.
>>>> However are the same time there are other power-domains that may need
>>>> to be on, but not always clocked and so having the ability to specify if
>>>> the clocks should be disabled seems useful. However, I can also remove
>>>> this and just have the appropriate devices turn on the clocks as well.
>>>> ---
>>>>  .../bindings/arm/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.txt      | 61 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  1 file changed, 61 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.txt
>>>> index 838e1a69ec0a..8e4641db51a9 100644
>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.txt
>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/tegra/nvidia,tegra20-pmc.txt
>>>> @@ -1,5 +1,7 @@
>>>>  NVIDIA Tegra Power Management Controller (PMC)
>>>>  
>>>> +== Power Management Controller Node ==
>>>> +
>>>>  The PMC block interacts with an external Power Management Unit. The PMC
>>>>  mostly controls the entry and exit of the system from different sleep
>>>>  modes. It provides power-gating controllers for SoC and CPU power-islands.
>>>> @@ -69,6 +71,10 @@ Optional properties for hardware-triggered thermal reset (inside 'i2c-thermtrip'
>>>>                       Defaults to 0. Valid values are described in section 12.5.2
>>>>                       "Pinmux Support" of the Tegra4 Technical Reference Manual.
>>>>  
>>>> +Optional nodes:
>>>> +- pm-domains : This node contains a hierarchy of PM domain nodes, which should
>>>> +	       match the power-domains on the Tegra SoC.
>>>> +
>>>>  Example:
>>>>  
>>>>  / SoC dts including file
>>>> @@ -114,3 +120,58 @@ pmc@7000f400 {
>>>>  	};
>>>>  	...
>>>>  };
>>>> +
>>>> +
>>>> +== PM Domain Nodes ==
>>>> +
>>>> +Each of the PM domain nodes represents a power-domain on the Tegra SoC
>>>> +that can be power-gated by the PMC and should be named appropriately.
>>>> +
>>>> +Required properties:
>>>> +  - clocks: Must contain an entry for each clock required by the PMC for
>>>> +    controlling a power-gate. See ../clocks/clock-bindings.txt for details.
>>>
>>> We've had this discussiona for a couple of other SoCs, so I need to
>>> ask...
>>>
>>> Presumably these are not device clocks that a runtime PM enabled driver
>>> should be managing for a device, right?  IOW, We want to make sure that the
>>> PM domain isn't managing clocks for drivers that should be doing it.
>>>
>>> I understand there are legitimate reasons for the PM domain to manage
>>> clocks in addition to device drivers (e.g. for synchronous reset), but
>>> just want to be sure it's not a shortcut for having a proper driver.
>> 
>> So some clocks may also be used by devices, but they are needed as part
>> of the power ungating/gating sequence. The general power-up sequence for
>> tegra is ...
>> 
>> 1. Enable the power-domain
>> 2. Enable the clock(s)
>> 3. Remove signal clamps
>> 4. De-assert reset(s)
>> 5. Disable clocks (optional)
>> 
>> You may say we should only handle #1 above for the powering up sequence,
>> but we can't do this. The reason is that there is one bit for each
>> power-domain that controls the signaling clamps and so we need to turn
>> on all the clocks specified in the TRM before we do this. Once we have
>> done this and released the reset(s), we can then disable the clocks
>> again (shown above an optional as it is not mandatory from a design
>> perspective) and then the devices in the power-domain should enable the
>> clocks they need as and when they want them.
>> 
>> Please note that I 100% agree that all clocks required by a device are
>> handled by the device and we do not implement any short-cuts here. The
>> only question I had was if there are clocks that may be bus clocks in
>> the power-domain that are required by all device in the power-domain.
>> However, may be this should be represented as a bus driver and all the
>> devices are children of it?
>
> Although the "nvidia,powergate-disable-clocks" optional property I had
> proposed could be seen as a bit of a short-cut, it is true :-)
> May be I should make the disabling of clocks again mandatory for the
> power-up sequence.

IIUC, that looks like a flag that tells the power-domain to just leave
all the clocks enabled after the domain power up?  Is that right?

To me that looks like possibly useful bringup hack, but a short-cut
that's ripe for abuse and would likely be used so that drivers don't
ever need to do their own clock management.

Kevin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-12-15  0:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-04 14:57 [PATCH V4 00/16] Add generic PM domain support for Tegra Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 01/16] reset: add of_reset_control_get_by_index() Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 02/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Add missing structure members to kernel-doc Jon Hunter
     [not found]   ` <1449241037-22193-3-git-send-email-jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-25 13:20     ` Thierry Reding
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 03/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Fix sparse warning for tegra_pmc_init_tsense_reset Jon Hunter
2016-01-25 13:21   ` Thierry Reding
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 04/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Remove debugfs entry on probe failure Jon Hunter
     [not found]   ` <1449241037-22193-5-git-send-email-jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-25 13:25     ` Thierry Reding
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 05/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Avoid extra remapping of PMC registers Jon Hunter
2016-01-14 13:45   ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-14 16:35     ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-14 17:24       ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-14 19:02         ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 06/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Wait for powergate state to change Jon Hunter
     [not found]   ` <1449241037-22193-7-git-send-email-jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-14 14:01     ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-15  9:06       ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 07/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Remove non-existing power partitions for T210 Jon Hunter
2016-01-25 13:27   ` Thierry Reding
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 08/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Fix checking of valid partitions Jon Hunter
2016-01-14 14:11   ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-15  9:08     ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 09/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Ensure partitions can be toggled on/off by PMC Jon Hunter
     [not found]   ` <1449241037-22193-10-git-send-email-jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-14 14:14     ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-15  9:32       ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 10/16] PM / Domains: Add function to remove a pm-domain Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 11/16] Documentation: DT: bindings: Update NVIDIA PMC for Tegra210 Jon Hunter
2015-12-06  0:31   ` Rob Herring
2015-12-07  9:54     ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 12/16] Documentation: DT: bindings: Add power domain info for NVIDIA PMC Jon Hunter
2015-12-08 19:07   ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]     ` <7h4mfslpyd.fsf-1D3HCaltpLuhEniVeURVKkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 12:23       ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]         ` <56681D53.9090600-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 12:33           ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]             ` <56681F9A.6080200-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-15  0:42               ` Kevin Hilman [this message]
2015-12-15  0:34           ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]   ` <1449241037-22193-13-git-send-email-jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-06  0:37     ` Rob Herring
2015-12-07  9:56       ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-14 14:41     ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-15  9:43       ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 13/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Add generic PM domain support Jon Hunter
2016-01-14 14:39   ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-15  9:42     ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]       ` <5698BF00.6090102-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 10:01         ` Lucas Stach
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 14/16] clk: tegra210: Add the APB2APE audio clock Jon Hunter
     [not found] ` <1449241037-22193-1-git-send-email-jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-04 14:57   ` [PATCH V4 15/16] ARM64: tegra: Add audio PM domain device node for Tegra210 Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57   ` [PATCH V4 16/16] ARM64: tegra: select PM_GENERIC_DOMAINS Jon Hunter
     [not found]     ` <1449241037-22193-17-git-send-email-jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-15 19:54       ` Ulf Hansson
     [not found]         ` <CAPDyKFrcuK4iCo7Tg1Q_XjB7Y-+=s-ax1vzK4UEu9FfPnuProw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-16  9:40           ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-16  9:47             ` Ulf Hansson
     [not found]               ` <CAPDyKFpZoZZapqanFyUzT_jZ6DLBnGXOXEyDHosWpphAjzhy7A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-16 11:40                 ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-16 12:51                   ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-13 17:03       ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-13 20:43         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-14  8:57           ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-14  9:21             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-14 10:29               ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-14 11:11                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-26 17:30                   ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                     ` <20160126173001.GA11062-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26 21:52                       ` Kevin Hilman
2016-01-14 17:16               ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-26 17:01                 ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-27  9:43                   ` Ulf Hansson

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