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From: Maximilian Luz <luzmaximilian@gmail.com>
To: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
Cc: Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@somainline.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Steev Klimaszewski <steev@kali.org>,
	Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@linaro.org>,
	Cristian Marussi <cristian.marussi@arm.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] dt-bindings: firmware: Add Qualcomm UEFI Secure Application client
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 17:15:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <829c8fee-cae5-597d-933d-784b4b57bd73@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220726143005.wt4be7yo7sbd3xut@bogus>

On 7/26/22 16:30, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 12:49:49AM +0200, Maximilian Luz wrote:
>> Add bindings for the Qualcomm Trusted Execution Environment (TrEE) UEFI
>> Secure application (uefisecapp) client.
>>

[...]

>> +examples:
>> +  - |
>> +    firmware {
>> +        scm {
>> +            compatible = "qcom,scm-sc8180x", "qcom,scm";
>> +        };
>> +        tee-uefisecapp {
>> +            compatible = "qcom,tee-uefisecapp";
>> +        };
> 
> Do you expect some issues using the scm driver APIs without the
> any additions in the DT ? I mean can't you auto-discover by using the
> APIs. I haven't looked at the driver or any other patches in the series,
> but I would like to know if we can avoid adding any new bindings if it
> can be discovered via those SCM driver APIs.

Not at scale, at least as far as I can tell.

Part of the setup-process of this driver is to query an "application ID"
from a unique string identifying the application (in this case
"qcom.tz.uefisecapp"). If that call fails, we know the app is not there.

But: If we'd want to support more than just "uefisecapp" we'd have to
query each app in some predefined list. As far as I can tell, there's no
method to enumerate all present/loaded ones. The Windows driver seems to
use a hard-coded list of apps that are present on some specific SoC.

It might be possible that there exists such a method, but if it does, the
Windows driver doesn't seem to use it and I don't know about it.

Also, there would need to be at least some type of compatible to
indicate the presence of that TrEE / Secure Application interface used by
uefisecapp. Unless you want to send some potentially unsupported SCM
commands on every platform with qcom,scm and see what comes back.

So ultimately I think it's better to add a DT entry for it. That also
(hopefully) ensures that someone tested and (at least in some way)
validated this. Again, It's a reverse engineered driver.

Regards,
Max

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-26 15:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-23 22:49 [PATCH 0/4] firmware: Add support for Qualcomm UEFI Secure Application Maximilian Luz
2022-07-23 22:49 ` [PATCH 1/4] firmware: qcom_scm: Export SCM call functions Maximilian Luz
2022-07-23 22:49 ` [PATCH 2/4] firmware: Add support for Qualcomm Trusted Execution Environment SCM calls Maximilian Luz
2022-07-23 22:49 ` [PATCH 3/4] firmware: Add support for Qualcomm UEFI Secure Application Maximilian Luz
2023-01-17  8:24   ` Johan Hovold
2023-01-17  8:42     ` Maximilian Luz
2023-01-18 20:45     ` Maximilian Luz
2023-01-19 16:47       ` Johan Hovold
2023-01-19 17:19         ` Maximilian Luz
2023-01-17 11:05   ` Johan Hovold
2023-01-17 12:07     ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-23 22:49 ` [PATCH 4/4] dt-bindings: firmware: Add Qualcomm UEFI Secure Application client Maximilian Luz
2022-07-25  1:06   ` Rob Herring
2022-07-26 10:17   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-26 11:15     ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-26 13:25       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-26 15:00         ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-27 11:24           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27 13:00             ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-28  7:48               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-28 10:25                 ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-28 10:38                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-28 10:49                     ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-26 14:30   ` Sudeep Holla
2022-07-26 15:15     ` Maximilian Luz [this message]
2022-07-26 15:41       ` Sudeep Holla
2022-07-26 17:01         ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-27 11:38           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-27 13:03             ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-27 13:24               ` Sudeep Holla
2022-07-27 14:49                 ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-28  6:03                 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2022-07-28 10:48                   ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-28 11:33                     ` Sudeep Holla
2022-07-28 12:13                       ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-28 12:24                       ` Ilias Apalodimas
2022-07-28 15:05                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-07-28 15:16                         ` Ilias Apalodimas
2022-07-28 16:16                         ` Sudeep Holla
2022-07-28 16:24                           ` Konrad Dybcio
2022-07-28 12:35                     ` Ilias Apalodimas
2022-07-28 12:49                       ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-28 16:56                         ` Ilias Apalodimas
2022-07-28 17:27                           ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-29  8:52                             ` Sudeep Holla
2022-07-29 15:11                               ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-31  9:54                             ` Ilias Apalodimas
2022-07-31 22:48                               ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-28  8:23           ` Sudeep Holla
2022-07-28 10:05             ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-28 11:21               ` Sudeep Holla
2022-07-28 11:45                 ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-28 13:42                   ` Sudeep Holla
2022-07-28 14:09                     ` Maximilian Luz
2022-07-25 19:27 ` [PATCH 0/4] firmware: Add support for Qualcomm UEFI Secure Application Rob Herring
2022-07-25 20:16   ` Maximilian Luz
2022-08-02 11:51 ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2022-08-02 13:22   ` Maximilian Luz
2022-08-02 14:02     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-08-02 19:11       ` Maximilian Luz
2022-09-02  7:26     ` Sumit Garg
2022-09-02 13:18       ` Maximilian Luz
2022-09-05  6:50         ` Sumit Garg
2022-11-23 11:22     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2022-11-23 12:05       ` Maximilian Luz

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