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From: icenowy@aosc.io
To: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
Cc: devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jernej Škrabec" <jernej.skrabec@siol.net>,
	linux-sunxi@googlegroups.com,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	wens@csie.org, "Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	linux-clk <linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: [RFC PATCH 07/11] drm: sun4i: add support for the TV encoder in H3 SoC
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2017 22:29:29 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <861ead704cc7d1bc0983d0f01138f190@aosc.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170524073019.bl6rojc2srrigalp@flea.home>

在 2017-05-24 15:30,Maxime Ripard 写道:
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 09:00:59PM +0800, icenowy@aosc.io wrote:
>> 在 2017-05-23 20:53,Maxime Ripard 写道:
>> > On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 07:55:56PM +0200, Jernej Škrabec wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Dne sobota, 20. maj 2017 ob 03:37:53 CEST je Chen-Yu Tsai napisal(a):
>> > > > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 2:23 AM, Jernej Škrabec <jernej.skrabec@siol.net>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Dne petek, 19. maj 2017 ob 20:08:18 CEST je Icenowy Zheng napisal(a):
>> > > > >> 于 2017年5月20日 GMT+08:00 上午2:03:30, Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-
>> > > > >
>> > > > > electrons.com> 写到:
>> > > > >> >On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 12:43:50AM +0800, Icenowy Zheng wrote:
>> > > > >> >> Allwinner H3 features a TV encoder similar to the one in earlier
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >SoCs,
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >> but with some different points about clocks:
>> > > > >> >> - It has a mod clock and a bus clock.
>> > > > >> >> - The mod clock must be at a fixed rate to generate signal.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >Why?
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> It's experiment result by Jernej.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> The clock rates in BSP kernel is also specially designed
>> > > > >> (PLL_DE at 432MHz) in order to be able to feed the TVE.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > My experiments and search through BSP code showed that TVE seems to have
>> > > > > additional fixed predivider 8. So if you want to generate 27 MHz clock,
>> > > > > unit has to be feed with 216 MHz.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > TVE has only one PLL source PLL_DE. And since 216 MHz is a bit low for
>> > > > > DE2,
>> > > > > BSP defaults to 432 MHz for PLL_DE and use divider 2 to generate 216 MHz.
>> > > > > This clock is then divided by 8 internaly to get final 27 MHz.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Please note that I don't have any hard evidence to support that, only
>> > > > > experimental data. However, only that explanation make sense to me.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > BTW, BSP H3/H5 TV driver supports only PAL and NTSC which both use 27 MHz
>> > > > > base clock. Further experiments are needed to check if there is any
>> > > > > possibility to have other resolutions by manipulating clocks and give
>> > > > > other proper settings. I plan to do that, but not in very near future.
>> > > >
>> > > > You only have composite video output, and those are the only 2 standard
>> > > > resolutions that make any sense.
>> > >
>> > > Right, other resolutions are for VGA.
>> > >
>> > > Anyway, I did some more digging in A10 and R40 datasheets. I think
>> > > that H3 TVE
>> > > unit is something in between. R40 TVE has a setting to select "up
>> > > sample".
>> >
>> > That might be just another translation of oversampling :)
>> >
>> > I didn't know it could be applied to composite signals though, but I
>> > guess this is just another analog signal after all.
>> >
>> > > Possible settings are 27 MHz, 54 MHz, 108 MHz and 216 MHz. BSP
>> > > driver on R40
>> > > has this setting enabled only for PAL and NTSC and it is always 216
>> > > MHz. I
>> > > think that H3 may have this hardwired to 216 MHz and this would be
>> > > the reason
>> > > why 216 MHz is needed.
>> > >
>> > > Has anyone else any better explanation?
>> >
>> > That's already a pretty good one.
>> >
>> > Either way, wether this is upsampling, oversampling or just a
>> > pre-divider, this can and should be dealt with in the mode_set
>> > callback, and not in the probe.
>> 
>> I got a better idea -- let TVE driver have the CLK_TVE as an
>> input and create a subclock output with divider 16, and feed this
>> subclock to TCON lcd-ch1.
>> 
>> This is a model of the real hardware -- the clock divider is in
>> TVE, not TCON.
> 
> That's definitely not a good representation of the hardware. There's
> one clock, it goes to the TCON, period.
> 
> However, the TV encoder has a constraint on that clock rate. This can
> be easily implemented using a custom encoder state where you'd set the
> multiplier to set on that clock, and the TCON will use it.

P.S. how to do such a custom state?

Should I do the multiplying in sun4i_tv_mode_to_drm_mode?

> 
> Maxime
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-04 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-17 16:43 [RFC PATCH 00/11] Support for H3 Composite Output support Icenowy Zheng
     [not found] ` <20170517164354.16399-1-icenowy-h8G6r0blFSE@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-17 16:43   ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] dt-bindings: update the binding for Allwinner H3 TVE support Icenowy Zheng
     [not found]     ` <20170517164354.16399-2-icenowy-h8G6r0blFSE@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-19 18:02       ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]         ` <20170519180215.7lc7duueu74pt4kz-YififvaboMKzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-19 18:06           ` Icenowy Zheng
     [not found]             ` <ED64A56C-4FD3-4878-B67E-1501F20C7B8D-h8G6r0blFSE@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-20  2:01               ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-05-17 16:43   ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] drm: sun4i: add support for H3 mixers Icenowy Zheng
     [not found]     ` <20170517164354.16399-3-icenowy-h8G6r0blFSE@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-19 17:47       ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]         ` <20170519174729.q5qk2vqlibzx3zrv-YififvaboMKzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-19 17:49           ` Icenowy Zheng
     [not found]             ` <695DFDD0-1925-433C-AB88-B90EE461C203-h8G6r0blFSE@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-19 18:00               ` Jernej Škrabec
2017-05-17 16:43   ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] drm: sun4i: ignore swapped mixer<->tcon connection for DE2 Icenowy Zheng
     [not found]     ` <20170517164354.16399-4-icenowy-h8G6r0blFSE@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-19 17:57       ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]         ` <20170519175753.sygqnwopk7tuv35n-YififvaboMKzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-19 18:00           ` Icenowy Zheng
     [not found]             ` <ECF29F56-DF18-4E3C-9C85-B29F89BD4228-h8G6r0blFSE@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-24  8:14               ` Maxime Ripard
2017-06-04 14:19                 ` icenowy
2017-05-17 16:43   ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] drm: sun4i: add support for H3's TCON0/1 Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-17 16:43   ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] drm: sun4i: add compatible for H3 display engine Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-17 16:43   ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] drm: sun4i: add color space correction support for DE2 mixer Icenowy Zheng
     [not found]     ` <20170517164354.16399-7-icenowy-h8G6r0blFSE@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-17 20:14       ` Jernej Škrabec
2017-05-17 16:43   ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] drm: sun4i: add support for the TV encoder in H3 SoC Icenowy Zheng
     [not found]     ` <20170517164354.16399-8-icenowy-h8G6r0blFSE@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-19 18:03       ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]         ` <20170519180330.7hpfkdqk3r2x3kn5-YififvaboMKzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-19 18:08           ` Icenowy Zheng
     [not found]             ` <3FCDBC05-20A1-460C-A21B-8C3E9C776768-h8G6r0blFSE@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-19 18:23               ` Jernej Škrabec
2017-05-20  1:37                 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
     [not found]                   ` <CAGb2v66aD=G+V75N-_nYo=dGqhxpKhadM84h9G-B34=dnDwCbg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-22 17:55                     ` Jernej Škrabec
2017-05-23 12:53                       ` Maxime Ripard
2017-05-23 12:56                         ` [linux-sunxi] " Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-23 13:00                         ` icenowy
     [not found]                           ` <98c3572beee0a81755994b4bdc508b18-h8G6r0blFSE@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-24  7:30                             ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]                               ` <20170524073019.bl6rojc2srrigalp-YififvaboMKzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-24  8:25                                 ` [linux-sunxi] " Icenowy Zheng
     [not found]                                   ` <98558BA2-BC99-4D0A-A045-571C643875C5-h8G6r0blFSE@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-24 15:23                                     ` Jernej Škrabec
2017-05-31 18:43                                     ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]                                       ` <20170531184306.hzu2em35vr4qi4un-ZC1Zs529Oq4@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-01 14:11                                         ` icenowy-h8G6r0blFSE
     [not found]                                           ` <715e6ab52d8aa0032c9759393ace20dc-h8G6r0blFSE@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-02 22:21                                             ` Maxime Ripard
2017-06-04 14:29                               ` icenowy [this message]
     [not found]                                 ` <861ead704cc7d1bc0983d0f01138f190-h8G6r0blFSE@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-07  7:58                                   ` Maxime Ripard
2017-05-17 16:43   ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] clk: sunxi-ng: allow CLK_DE to set CLK_PLL_DE for H3 Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-17 16:43   ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] clk: sunxi-ng: export " Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-17 16:43   ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] ARM: sun8i: h3: add display engine pipeline for TVE Icenowy Zheng
     [not found]     ` <20170517164354.16399-11-icenowy-h8G6r0blFSE@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-17 20:19       ` [linux-sunxi] " Jernej Škrabec
2017-05-19 18:06       ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]         ` <20170519180616.vzrlu2avuucsjkiu-YififvaboMKzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-19 18:10           ` Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-24  8:19             ` [linux-sunxi] " Maxime Ripard
2017-05-24  5:24       ` Chen-Yu Tsai
     [not found]         ` <CAGb2v64nVA=hHjXkVNMN68vQizMBE6vyYfaE895b0L6umv_Ycw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-24  5:28           ` [linux-sunxi] " Icenowy Zheng
     [not found]             ` <299627EE-8D9C-451A-9F74-0C5037D19DCC-h8G6r0blFSE@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-24  5:34               ` Chen-Yu Tsai
     [not found]                 ` <CAGb2v64-3TYDgCBhGFNDqvoTa1ch=j3k__rnbB80dsFQn3JsKw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-24  5:36                   ` Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-17 16:43   ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] [DO NOT MERGE] ARM: sun8i: h3: enable TV output on Orange Pi PC Icenowy Zheng

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