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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	wenst@chromium.org, Eddie Huang <eddie.huang@mediatek.com>,
	Allen-KH Cheng <allen-kh.cheng@mediatek.com>,
	Ben Ho <Ben.Ho@mediatek.com>, Weiyi Lu <weiyi.lu@mediatek.com>,
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno 
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Tinghan Shen <tinghan.shen@mediatek.com>,
	jwerner@chromium.org,
	Hsin-Hsiung Wang <hsin-hsiung.wang@mediatek.com>,
	yidilin@chromium.org, Seiya Wang <seiya.wang@mediatek.com>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: interrupt-controller: arm,gic-v3: Add quirk for Mediatek SoCs w/ broken FW
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 09:02:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86v8gym0ys.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230511150539.1.Iabe67a827e206496efec6beb5616d5a3b99c1e65@changeid>

On Thu, 11 May 2023 23:05:35 +0100,
Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> wrote:
> 
> When trying to turn on the "pseudo NMI" kernel feature in Linux, it
> was discovered that all Mediatek-based Chromebooks that ever shipped
> (at least ones with GICv3) had a firmware bug where they wouldn't save
> certain GIC "GICR" registers properly. If a processor ever entered a
> suspend/idle mode where the GICR registers lost state then they'd be
> reset to their default state.
> 
> As a result of the bug, if you try to enable "pseudo NMIs" on the
> affected devices then certain interrupts will unexpectedly get
> promoted to be "pseudo NMIs" and cause crashes / freezes / general
> mayhem.
> 
> ChromeOS is looking to start turning on "pseudo NMIs" in production to
> make crash reports more actionable. To do so, we will release firmware
> updates for at least some of the affected Mediatek Chromebooks.
> However, even when we update the firmware of a Chromebook it's always
> possible that a user will end up booting with old firmware. We need to
> be able to detect when we're running with firmware that will crash and
> burn if pseudo NMIs are enabled.
> 
> The current plan is:
> * Update the device trees of all affected Chromebooks to include the
>   'mediatek,gicr-save-quirk' property. The kernel can use this to know
>   not to enable certain features like "pseudo NMI". NOTE: device trees
>   for Chromebooks are never baked into the firmware but are bundled
>   with the kernel. A kernel will never be configured to use "pseudo
>   NMIs" and be bundled with an old device tree.
> * When we get a fixed firmware for one of these Chromebooks, it will
>   patch the device tree to remove this property.

Since you're in control of distributing the FW together with the
kernel, I assume you're also in control of the command line. Why can't
that firmware pass the option enabling the pseudo-NMI support,
dispensing ourselves from all of this?

> 
> For some details, you can also see the public bug
> <https://issuetracker.google.com/281831288>
> 
> Signed-off-by: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
> ---
> 
>  .../bindings/interrupt-controller/arm,gic-v3.yaml           | 6 ++++++
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/arm,gic-v3.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/arm,gic-v3.yaml
> index 92117261e1e1..8c251caae537 100644
> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/arm,gic-v3.yaml
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/arm,gic-v3.yaml
> @@ -166,6 +166,12 @@ properties:
>    resets:
>      maxItems: 1
>  
> +  mediatek,gicr-save-quirk:

I think this deserves something *much* stronger that outlines what is
wrong, because this is not just a quirk. This is a failure to even
remotely grasp the requirements of the architecture (and to use
standard, public code that would have done it correctly). Something
like "mediatek,broken-save-restore-fw" would be more adequate.

> +    type: boolean
> +    description:
> +      Asserts that the firmware on this device has issues saving and restoring
> +      GICR registers when CPUs are powered off.

Nit: not the the CPUs, but the GIC redistributors.

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-05-12  8:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-11 22:05 [PATCH 0/6] irqchip/gic-v3: Disable pseudo NMIs on Mediatek Chromebooks w/ bad FW Douglas Anderson
2023-05-11 22:05 ` [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: interrupt-controller: arm,gic-v3: Add quirk for Mediatek SoCs w/ broken FW Douglas Anderson
2023-05-11 22:37   ` Julius Werner
2023-05-12 11:32     ` Matthias Brugger
2023-05-12  8:02   ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2023-05-12 13:40     ` Doug Anderson
2023-05-11 22:05 ` [PATCH 2/6] irqchip/gic-v3: Disable pseudo NMIs on Mediatek devices w/ firmware issues Douglas Anderson
2023-05-11 22:38   ` Julius Werner
2023-05-11 22:05 ` [PATCH 3/6] arm64: dts: mediatek: mt8183: Add mediatek,gicr-save-quirk Douglas Anderson
2023-05-11 22:38   ` Julius Werner
2023-05-12  8:13   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-05-12 14:15     ` Doug Anderson
2023-05-15 11:29   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2023-05-11 22:05 ` [PATCH 4/6] arm64: dts: mediatek: mt8186: " Douglas Anderson
2023-05-11 22:38   ` Julius Werner
2023-05-11 22:05 ` [PATCH 5/6] arm64: dts: mediatek: mt8192: " Douglas Anderson
2023-05-11 22:38   ` Julius Werner
2023-05-11 22:05 ` [PATCH 6/6] arm64: dts: mediatek: mt8195: " Douglas Anderson
2023-05-11 22:38 ` Julius Werner

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