From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@linaro.org>
Cc: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Maulik Shah <quic_mkshah@quicinc.com>,
Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/3] cpuidle: psci: Call cpu_cluster_pm_enter() on the last CPU
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 08:52:35 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <875ypd50z0.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220217073130.GD31965@dragon>
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 07:31:32 +0000,
Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 03:58:41PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > On 2022-02-16 14:49, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> > > +Ulf (as you he is the author of cpuidle-psci-domains.c and can help you
> > > with that if you require)
>
> Thanks, Sudeep!
>
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 09:28:28PM +0800, Shawn Guo wrote:
> > > > Make a call to cpu_cluster_pm_enter() on the last CPU going to low
> > > > power
> > > > state (and cpu_cluster_pm_exit() on the firt CPU coming back), so that
> > > > platforms can be notified to set up hardware for getting into the
> > > > cluster
> > > > low power state.
> > > >
> > >
> > > NACK. We are not getting the notion of CPU cluster back to cpuidle
> > > again.
> > > That must die. Remember the cluster doesn't map to idle states
> > > especially
> > > in the DSU systems where HMP CPUs are in the same cluster but can be in
> > > different power domains.
>
> The 'cluster' in cpu_cluster_pm_enter() doesn't necessarily means
> a physical CPU cluster. I think the documentation of the function has a
> better description.
>
> * Notifies listeners that all cpus in a power domain are entering a low power
> * state that may cause some blocks in the same power domain to reset.
>
> So cpu_domain_pm_enter() might be a better name? Anyways ...
>
> > >
> > > You need to decide which PSCI CPU_SUSPEND mode you want to use first. If
> > > it is
> > > Platform Co-ordinated(PC), then you need not notify anything to the
> > > platform.
> > > Just request the desired idle state on each CPU and platform will take
> > > care
> > > from there.
> > >
> > > If for whatever reason you have chosen OS initiated mode(OSI), then
> > > specify
> > > the PSCI power domains correctly in the DT which will make use of the
> > > cpuidle-psci-domains and handle the so called "cluster" state correctly.
>
> Yes, I'm running a Qualcomm platform that has OSI supported in PSCI.
>
> >
> > My understanding is that what Shawn is after is a way to detect the "last
> > man standing" on the system to kick off some funky wake-up controller that
> > really should be handled by the power controller (because only that guy
> > knows for sure who is the last CPU on the block).
> >
> > There was previously some really funky stuff (copy pasted from the existing
> > rpmh_rsc_cpu_pm_callback()), which I totally objected to having hidden in
> > an irqchip driver.
> >
> > My ask was that if we needed such information, and assuming that it is
> > possible to obtain it in a reliable way, this should come from the core
> > code, and not be invented by random drivers.
>
> Thanks Marc for explain my problem!
>
> Right, all I need is a notification in MPM irqchip driver when the CPU
> domain/cluster is about to enter low power state. As cpu_pm -
> kernel/cpu_pm.c, already has helper cpu_cluster_pm_enter() sending
> CPU_CLUSTER_PM_ENTER event, I just need to find a caller to this cpu_pm
> helper.
>
> Is .power_off hook of generic_pm_domain a better place for calling the
> helper?
I really don't understand why you want a cluster PM event generated by
the idle driver. Specially considering that you are not after a
*cluster* PM event, but after some sort of system-wide event (last man
standing).
It looks to me that having a predicate that can be called from a PM
notifier event to find out whether you're the last in line would be
better suited, and could further be used to remove the crap from the
rpmh-rsc driver.
M.
--
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-17 8:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-16 13:28 [PATCH v5 0/3] Add Qualcomm MPM irqchip driver support Shawn Guo
2022-02-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] cpuidle: psci: Call cpu_cluster_pm_enter() on the last CPU Shawn Guo
2022-02-16 14:39 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-02-17 2:28 ` Shawn Guo
2022-02-16 14:49 ` Sudeep Holla
2022-02-16 15:58 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-02-17 7:31 ` Shawn Guo
2022-02-17 8:52 ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2022-02-17 13:37 ` Shawn Guo
2022-02-19 11:45 ` Shawn Guo
2022-02-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] dt-bindings: interrupt-controller: Add Qualcomm MPM support Shawn Guo
2022-02-17 3:59 ` Rob Herring
2022-02-17 6:54 ` Shawn Guo
2022-02-22 17:11 ` Rob Herring
2022-02-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] irqchip: Add Qualcomm MPM controller driver Shawn Guo
2022-02-16 15:48 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-02-17 13:14 ` Shawn Guo
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