From: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
To: "Mahapatra, Amit Kumar" <amit.kumar-mahapatra@amd.com>
Cc: "richard@nod.at" <richard@nod.at>,
"vigneshr@ti.com" <vigneshr@ti.com>,
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Bernhard Frauendienst <kernel@nospam.obeliks.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 3/3] mtd: Add driver for concatenating devices
Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 16:39:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87msazv3ln.fsf@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <IA0PR12MB76996538D556ABC8E9C29624DC65A@IA0PR12MB7699.namprd12.prod.outlook.com> (Amit Kumar Mahapatra's message of "Mon, 26 May 2025 14:27:37 +0000")
On 26/05/2025 at 14:27:37 GMT, "Mahapatra, Amit Kumar" <amit.kumar-mahapatra@amd.com> wrote:
> [AMD Official Use Only - AMD Internal Distribution Only]
>
>> > [AMD Official Use Only - AMD Internal Distribution Only]
>> >
>> >> On 13/05/2025 at 14:45:39 GMT, "Mahapatra, Amit Kumar" <amit.kumar-
>> >> mahapatra@amd.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > [AMD Official Use Only - AMD Internal Distribution Only]
>> >> >
>> >> > Hello Miquel,
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> > + mtd->dev.parent = concat->subdev[0]->dev.parent;
>> >> >> >> > + mtd->dev = concat->subdev[0]->dev;
>> >> >> >> > +
>> >> >> >> > + /* Register the platform device */
>> >> >> >> > + ret = mtd_device_register(mtd, NULL, 0);
>> >> >> >> > + if (ret)
>> >> >> >> > + goto destroy_concat;
>> >> >> >> > + }
>> >> >> >> > +
>> >> >> >> > + return 0;
>> >> >> >> > +
>> >> >> >> > +destroy_concat:
>> >> >> >> > + mtd_concat_destroy(mtd);
>> >> >> >> > +
>> >> >> >> > + return ret;
>> >> >> >> > +}
>> >> >> >> > +
>> >> >> >> > +late_initcall(mtd_virt_concat_create_join);
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The current implementation does not support probe deferrals, I
>> >> >> >> believe it should be handled.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I see that the parse_mtd_partitions() API can return
>> >> >> > -EPROBE_DEFER during MTD device registration, but this behavior
>> >> >> > is specific to the parse_qcomsmem_part parser. None of the other
>> >> >> > parsers appear to support probe deferral. As discussed in RFC
>> >> >> > [1], the virtual concat feature is purely a fixed-partition
>> >> >> > capability, and based on my understanding, the fixed-partition parser does
>> not support probe deferral.
>> >> >> > Please let me know if you can think of any other probe deferral
>> >> >> > scenarios that might impact the virtual concat driver.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That's true, but I kind of dislike the late_initcall, I fear it
>> >> >> might break in creative
>> >> ways.
>> >> >
>> >> > I understand, but since we require the partition information to be
>> >> > available, late_initcall seems to be the most suitable choice among
>> >> > the initcall levels—if we decide to proceed with using an initcall.
>> >> > Regarding potential failures, as far as I can tell, the operation
>> >> > would fail if, at the time of concatenation, one or more of the MTD
>> >> > devices involved in the concat are not yet available. In such a
>> >> > scenario, we can issue a kernel warning and exit gracefully. But,
>> >> > However, if you prefer to move away from using initcalls and have
>> >> > an alternative implementation approach in mind, please let us know.
>> >>
>> >> I am sorry but this does not work with modules, and we cannot ignore
>> >> this case I believe. More specifically, if a controller probe is
>> >> deferred (with EPROBE_DEFER or just prevented because some
>> >> dependencies are not yet satisfied), you'll get incorrectly defined mtd devices.
>> >
>> > Ok, an alternative solution could be to remove the initcall
>> > registration and instead invoke mtd_virt_concat_create_join()—which
>> > was previously registered as a late_initcall—directly from
>> mtd_device_parse_register().
>> > I believe this approach would address both of your concerns regarding
>> > module support and probe deferral. Additionally, we could consider
>> > moving the entire code from mtd_virt_concat.c into mtdconcat.c.
>> > Please let us know your take on this.
>>
>> What would this bring?
>>
>> Maybe we should trigger some kind of notifier after registering an mtd device and in
>> there attempt to gather all mtd devices required for the concatenation. Can you
>> please propose something like that?
>
> In the current patch, during MTD registration, if a device is
> part of a concatenated (concat) device, it is not registered individually.
> Instead, its information is stored in a concat-specific data structure, as
> it is not meant to be exposed as a standalone MTD device. As per my
> earlier proposal, once all individual MTD devices are registered,
> mtd_virt_concat_create_join() is called from
> mtd_device_parse_register() to scan this data structure and create the
> corresponding concat devices. Just to confirm, are you suggesting that
> mtd_virt_concat_create_join() should be triggered through a notifier
> instead? At the point when all individual MTD devices are registered,
> we already have the complete information required for concatenation.
> So, rather than relying on a listener notification, we cac directly call the
> API. Please let me know if I am missing anything here.
This approach does not stand because, afair, it relies on a single
late_initcall() which is too early. We want concatenation to work
regardless of the Kconfig selection =y or =m.
Thanks,
Miquèl
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-26 14:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-05 13:37 [PATCH v12 0/3] mtd: Add support for stacked memories Amit Kumar Mahapatra
2025-02-05 13:37 ` [PATCH v12 1/3] dt-bindings: mtd: Describe MTD partitions concatenation Amit Kumar Mahapatra
2025-02-11 21:29 ` Rob Herring
2025-02-12 8:25 ` Miquel Raynal
2025-02-12 16:06 ` Rob Herring
2025-02-12 16:18 ` Miquel Raynal
2025-02-18 21:39 ` Rob Herring
2025-02-19 8:36 ` Miquel Raynal
2025-02-05 13:37 ` [PATCH v12 2/3] mtd: Move struct mtd_concat definition to header file Amit Kumar Mahapatra
2025-02-05 13:37 ` [PATCH v12 3/3] mtd: Add driver for concatenating devices Amit Kumar Mahapatra
2025-02-05 16:23 ` Markus Elfring
2025-03-18 15:53 ` Miquel Raynal
2025-03-19 6:17 ` Mahapatra, Amit Kumar
2025-03-19 8:21 ` Miquel Raynal
2025-04-30 14:18 ` Mahapatra, Amit Kumar
2025-05-12 10:01 ` Miquel Raynal
2025-05-13 14:45 ` Mahapatra, Amit Kumar
2025-05-16 14:06 ` Miquel Raynal
2025-05-21 6:13 ` Mahapatra, Amit Kumar
2025-05-26 8:10 ` Miquel Raynal
2025-05-26 14:27 ` Mahapatra, Amit Kumar
2025-05-26 14:39 ` Miquel Raynal [this message]
2025-05-26 15:01 ` Mahapatra, Amit Kumar
2025-05-27 8:21 ` Miquel Raynal
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