* [PATCH] docs: dt: writing-schema: Describe defining properties in top-level
@ 2025-09-04 14:24 Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-09-04 15:30 ` Frank Li
2025-09-09 15:06 ` Rob Herring (Arm)
0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Krzysztof Kozlowski @ 2025-09-04 14:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Conor Dooley, devicetree,
linux-kernel
Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski
Document established Devicetree bindings maintainers review practice:
Properties having differences per each device in the binding, e.g.
different constraints for lists or different allowed values, should
still be defined in top-level 'properties' section and only customized
in 'if:then:'.
Signed-off-by: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>
---
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst | 8 ++++++++
1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst
index 470d1521fa17..e0859094575d 100644
--- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst
@@ -165,6 +165,14 @@ The YAML Devicetree format also makes all string values an array and scalar
values a matrix (in order to define groupings) even when only a single value
is present. Single entries in schemas are fixed up to match this encoding.
+When bindings cover multiple similar devices that differ in some properties,
+those properties should be constrained for each device. This usually means:
+
+ * In top level 'properties' define the property with the broadest constraints.
+ * In 'if:then:' blocks, further narrow the constraints for those properties.
+ * Do not define the properties within an 'if:then:' block (note that
+ 'additionalItems' also won't allow that).
+
Coding style
------------
--
2.48.1
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* Re: [PATCH] docs: dt: writing-schema: Describe defining properties in top-level
2025-09-04 14:24 [PATCH] docs: dt: writing-schema: Describe defining properties in top-level Krzysztof Kozlowski
@ 2025-09-04 15:30 ` Frank Li
2025-09-05 6:49 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-09-09 15:06 ` Rob Herring (Arm)
1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Frank Li @ 2025-09-04 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski
Cc: Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Conor Dooley, devicetree,
linux-kernel
On Thu, Sep 04, 2025 at 04:24:01PM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> Document established Devicetree bindings maintainers review practice:
> Properties having differences per each device in the binding, e.g.
> different constraints for lists or different allowed values, should
> still be defined in top-level 'properties' section and only customized
> in 'if:then:'.
'customized' is not easy understand in my view.
only restrict (such as limit number of item, limit data range, disabllow
properties) in 'if: then:' section.
>
> Signed-off-by: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>
> ---
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst | 8 ++++++++
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst
> index 470d1521fa17..e0859094575d 100644
> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst
> @@ -165,6 +165,14 @@ The YAML Devicetree format also makes all string values an array and scalar
> values a matrix (in order to define groupings) even when only a single value
> is present. Single entries in schemas are fixed up to match this encoding.
>
> +When bindings cover multiple similar devices that differ in some properties,
> +those properties should be constrained for each device. This usually means:
> +
> + * In top level 'properties' define the property with the broadest constraints.
> + * In 'if:then:' blocks, further narrow the constraints for those properties.
> + * Do not define the properties within an 'if:then:' block (note that
> + 'additionalItems' also won't allow that).
> +
I can understand what your said. I think it would be better if add some
simple examples.
Frank
> Coding style
> ------------
>
> --
> 2.48.1
>
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* Re: [PATCH] docs: dt: writing-schema: Describe defining properties in top-level
2025-09-04 15:30 ` Frank Li
@ 2025-09-05 6:49 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-09-05 14:35 ` Frank Li
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Krzysztof Kozlowski @ 2025-09-05 6:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Frank Li
Cc: Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Conor Dooley, devicetree,
linux-kernel
On 04/09/2025 17:30, Frank Li wrote:
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst
>> index 470d1521fa17..e0859094575d 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst
>> @@ -165,6 +165,14 @@ The YAML Devicetree format also makes all string values an array and scalar
>> values a matrix (in order to define groupings) even when only a single value
>> is present. Single entries in schemas are fixed up to match this encoding.
>>
>> +When bindings cover multiple similar devices that differ in some properties,
>> +those properties should be constrained for each device. This usually means:
>> +
>> + * In top level 'properties' define the property with the broadest constraints.
>> + * In 'if:then:' blocks, further narrow the constraints for those properties.
>> + * Do not define the properties within an 'if:then:' block (note that
>> + 'additionalItems' also won't allow that).
>> +
>
> I can understand what your said. I think it would be better if add some
> simple examples.
Example for that is already there - at the bottom of this file.
Best regards,
Krzysztof
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* Re: [PATCH] docs: dt: writing-schema: Describe defining properties in top-level
2025-09-05 6:49 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
@ 2025-09-05 14:35 ` Frank Li
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Frank Li @ 2025-09-05 14:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski
Cc: Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Conor Dooley, devicetree,
linux-kernel
On Fri, Sep 05, 2025 at 08:49:01AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 04/09/2025 17:30, Frank Li wrote:
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst
> >> index 470d1521fa17..e0859094575d 100644
> >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst
> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst
> >> @@ -165,6 +165,14 @@ The YAML Devicetree format also makes all string values an array and scalar
> >> values a matrix (in order to define groupings) even when only a single value
> >> is present. Single entries in schemas are fixed up to match this encoding.
> >>
> >> +When bindings cover multiple similar devices that differ in some properties,
> >> +those properties should be constrained for each device. This usually means:
> >> +
> >> + * In top level 'properties' define the property with the broadest constraints.
> >> + * In 'if:then:' blocks, further narrow the constraints for those properties.
> >> + * Do not define the properties within an 'if:then:' block (note that
> >> + 'additionalItems' also won't allow that).
> >> +
> >
> > I can understand what your said. I think it would be better if add some
> > simple examples.
> Example for that is already there - at the bottom of this file.
example-schema.yaml is big, it is hard to match to this specific rule. some
small section will be helpful
properties:
a: # define 'a' at top
enum: [0, 1] # width range in here
allOf:
- if:
... # some condition
then:
properties:
a:
const: 0 # allow only 0 for some specific condition.
Frank
>
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof
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* Re: [PATCH] docs: dt: writing-schema: Describe defining properties in top-level
2025-09-04 14:24 [PATCH] docs: dt: writing-schema: Describe defining properties in top-level Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-09-04 15:30 ` Frank Li
@ 2025-09-09 15:06 ` Rob Herring (Arm)
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Rob Herring (Arm) @ 2025-09-09 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski
Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski, linux-kernel, Conor Dooley, devicetree
On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 16:24:01 +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> Document established Devicetree bindings maintainers review practice:
> Properties having differences per each device in the binding, e.g.
> different constraints for lists or different allowed values, should
> still be defined in top-level 'properties' section and only customized
> in 'if:then:'.
>
> Signed-off-by: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>
> ---
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-schema.rst | 8 ++++++++
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
>
Applied, thanks!
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