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From: Bastian Krause <bst@pengutronix.de>
To: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>
Cc: linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org,
	Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
	Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Arnaud Ebalard <arno@natisbad.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	kernel@pengutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] dt-bindings: rtc: add chargeable flag for rx8130
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 10:13:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98fa7181-3ebe-d7c3-cfac-fee841c81e15@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200825153248.GH2389103@piout.net>


On 8/25/20 5:32 PM, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 24/08/2020 15:32:22+0200, Bastian Krause wrote:
>> On 8/24/20 1:31 PM, Bastian Krause wrote:
>>>
>>> On 4/15/20 8:56 PM, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
>>>> On 15/04/2020 18:37:00+0200, Bastian Krause wrote:
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Bastian Krause <bst@pengutronix.de>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/rtc-ds1307.txt | 3 +++
>>>>>  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/rtc-ds1307.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/rtc-ds1307.txt
>>>>> index 66f0a31ae9ce..987a0c9e0cd7 100644
>>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/rtc-ds1307.txt
>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/rtc-ds1307.txt
>>>>> @@ -34,6 +34,9 @@ Optional properties:
>>>>>  - trickle-diode-disable : ds1339, ds1340 and ds 1388 only
>>>>>  	Do not use internal trickle charger diode
>>>>>  	Should be given if internal trickle charger diode should be disabled
>>>>> +- aux-voltage-chargeable: rx8130 only
>>>>> +	Epsons's rx8130 supports a backup battery/supercap.
>>>>> +	This flag tells	whether the battery/supercap is chargeable or not.
>>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I think we should make that a generic property and this should supersede
>>>> trickle-diode-disable which is a bit wonky as I would prefer the default
>>>> to be disabled instead of enabled with the current semantics.
>>>
>>> Alright, I think I know how to transform the RTC drivers.
>>>
>>> One question about the DTs though:
>>>
>>> This means we should remove "trickle-diode-disable" from all upstream
>>> DTs and add "aux-voltage-chargeable" to all upstream DTs that use a RTC
>>> compatible whose driver care in their probe function for
>>> "trickle-diode-disable", right?
>>
>> Sorry, forget that.
>>
>> Here's the situation:
>>
>> Currently there is a switch to explicitly disable charging, so the
>> default is to charge. We cannot introduce another boolean switch to turn
>> that the other way around, because that would change the default and
>> break backwards compatibility.
>>
>> The only way I can think of is to introduce "aux-voltage-chargeable" not
>> as a boolean switch but as an integer, without any default. If this
>> property is not available, the drivers should simply do what they did
>> prior to this change (look for the legacy trickle-diode-disable, use the
>> default they used before).
>>
>> Are you okay with that?
>>
> 
> I agree boolean should be avoided in RTC drivers because we need a way
> to express "don't change this value".

Alright.

>> Some more context:
>>
>> I originally tried to add a chargeable flag for rx8130. Prior to this
>> patch, there was no need to set "trickle-diode-disable" for this,
>> because the driver did not pass the chargeable flag to the RTC. With the
>> patch the default would have been to charge as long as
>> "trickle-diode-disable" is not there. So there's a change in behavior.
>>
> 
> Yes, IIRC, my point was simply to move the documentation for
> aux-voltage-chargeable to the generice rtc binding documentation,
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/rtc.yaml
> 
> For now, you sould keep support for trickle-diode-disable but it has to be
> superseded by aux-voltage-chargeable if present. Is that more clear?

Yes, thanks for the clarification.

Should I set the deprecated flag for trickle-diode-disable in the
dt-binding yaml?

Regards,
Bastian

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-26  8:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-15 16:36 [RESEND PATCH v2 1/3] rtc: ds1307: Enable battery backup on RX8130 Bastian Krause
2020-04-15 16:37 ` [PATCH 2/3] dt-bindings: rtc: add chargeable flag for rx8130 Bastian Krause
2020-04-15 16:44   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-04-15 18:56   ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-08-24 11:31     ` Bastian Krause
2020-08-24 13:32       ` Bastian Krause
2020-08-25 15:32         ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-08-26  8:13           ` Bastian Krause [this message]
2020-09-02 19:18             ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-04-15 16:37 ` [PATCH 3/3] rtc: ds1307: make backup battery chargeable optionally Bastian Krause

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