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From: Jacek Anaszewski <jacek.anaszewski@gmail.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Dan Murphy <dmurphy@ti.com>
Cc: robh+dt@kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lee.jones@linaro.org,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/6] dt-bindings: ti-lmu: Remove LM3697
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 22:15:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9c14ee7c-f172-bb0c-d9a8-8aeee408f716@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180914081822.GA21830@amd>

Hi Pavel,

On 09/14/2018 10:18 AM, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
>>>> How do I politely explain that the original implementation was wrong for certain devices?
>>>
>>> Implementation? Device tree is hardware description.
>>
>> Yes this hardware description is incorrect.  The hardware description is
>> describing a MFD but this LED driver (and a couple others) only perform
>> 1 function and that is to drive a LED string.
> 
> So what? Does not seem incorrect to me. Maybe the description should
> not be in MFD directory, but other than that...
> 
>>>> Isn't code and documentation supposed to be pushed in stages
>>>> together?
>>>
>>> Device tree is _not_ documentation. And yes, it is normally pushed
>>> together. But that did not happen here, and bindings are already in.
>>
>> Hmm..  Its not documentation but it is in the Documentation folder.
>> And just because the bindings are in does not mean they cannot be
>> changed.
> 
> You may want to learn more about device tree and/or talk to the device
> tree maintainers. This is an old article. https://lwn.net/Articles/561462/

The article title is "Device trees as ABI". A device tree is defined
in the "*.dts" file that is then compiled to a dtb blob, which
constitutes the ABI. And this ABI should be kept backwards compatible.

What is discussed here is a documentation of bindings, i.e. according
to ePAPR: "requirements for how specific types and classes of devices
are represented in the device tree".

>From the bindings documented in the
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/ti-lmu.txt only
ti,lm3532-backlight is used in the mainline dts file
(arch/arm/boot/dts/omap4-droid4-xt894.dts).

Having the above it seems that there is no risk of breaking any
users.

> NAK on this patch. I see that this binding has problems, but
> introducing different binding for subset of devices is _not_ a fix.
> 
>>> What about the multi function devices? They should have same binding.
>>
>> The MFD devices defined are not in contention here only the SFD.
> 
> I'd like to see common solutions for SFD and MFD, as the hardware is
> similar, and that includes the code. Having code that is easier to
> maintain is important, and having many drivers are harder to maintain
> than one driver.
> 
> Milo's code looks better than yours in that regard. I disagree about
> Milo's code being "nightmare" to modify, and care about "easy to
> maintain" more than "binary size".

Easy to maintain will be a dedicated LED class driver.

-- 
Best regards,
Jacek Anaszewski

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-14 20:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-11 17:08 [PATCH v7 0/6] LM3697 dedicated LED driver Dan Murphy
2018-09-11 17:08 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] dt-bindings: ti-lmu: Remove LM3697 Dan Murphy
2018-09-11 18:14   ` Lee Jones
2018-09-11 20:05   ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-11 21:48     ` Dan Murphy
2018-09-12 21:49       ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-13 15:15         ` Dan Murphy
2018-09-14  8:18           ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-14 20:15             ` Jacek Anaszewski [this message]
2018-09-14 21:42               ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-15 20:00                 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2018-09-17 15:24                   ` Dan Murphy
2018-09-17 19:22                     ` Jacek Anaszewski
2018-09-17 21:23                       ` Dan Murphy
2018-09-20 22:04                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-21 12:44                       ` Dan Murphy
2018-09-14  8:23           ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-12 18:35     ` Jacek Anaszewski
2018-09-11 17:08 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] mfd: ti-lmu: Remove support for LM3697 Dan Murphy
2018-09-11 18:13   ` Lee Jones
2018-09-11 17:08 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] dt-bindings: leds: Add bindings for lm3697 driver Dan Murphy
2018-09-24 16:18   ` Rob Herring
2018-09-24 18:02     ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-25 19:39       ` Rob Herring
2018-09-25 21:19         ` Dan Murphy
2018-09-11 17:08 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] leds: lm3697: Introduce the " Dan Murphy
2018-09-11 17:08 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] dt-bindings: leds: Add runtime ramp node for LM3697 Dan Murphy
2018-09-11 17:08 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] leds: lm3697: Add ramp rate feature Dan Murphy

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