From: Dave Martin <dave.martin-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Nicolas Pitre
<nicolas.pitre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Host-endian device tree format
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:09:39 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTim7F8PBd_4zmQY7717N7CoiGvvyX473CL=6qCaj@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi==KLWXAv79u32ioQ9eSr7JEii7fW93WPPNdAez-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Grant Likely <grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Dave Martin wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca> wrote:
>>> > The dtb isn't so much bigendian as it is network byte order.
>>>
>>> (For me, "network byte order" is a euphemism ... <insert
>>> unconstructive rant here>)
>>
>> I concur.
>
> meh. it's all about conventions. When talking about external data, it
> is far more important for everyone to agree on the same representation
> than it is to tailor to each platforms preferences. That said, rant
> away! I love a good tangent.
I guess a good example of what I mean is ELF - the endianness of an
ELF image is discoverable, and cross tools do exist -- but because ELF
images are strongly bound to their target platform, running the image
takes precedence over the simplicity of the tools: so the images are
specified in such a way that they can always be host-endian for the
machine they run on, without creating format ambiguities.
Of course, it's stretching things rather a lot to claim that fdt
parsing is performance critical ... or that ELF cross tools work well
in all host/target combinations ... rather it's a niggle.
So, I'm happy as-is. It was just tempting to rock the boat a bit to
make sure everyone has their sea legs :)
Cheers
---Dave
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Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-19 10:43 RFC: Host-endian device tree format Dave Martin
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2011-01-19 13:41 ` Grant Likely
2011-01-19 14:55 ` Dave Martin
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2011-01-19 15:41 ` Nicolas Pitre
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2011-01-19 15:52 ` Grant Likely
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2011-01-19 16:05 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1101191101230.8580-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-19 16:07 ` Grant Likely
2011-01-19 17:47 ` Segher Boessenkool
2011-01-19 16:09 ` Dave Martin [this message]
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2011-01-19 23:47 ` David Gibson
2011-01-20 9:28 ` Dave Martin
2011-01-19 18:19 ` Scott Wood
2011-01-19 20:10 ` Mikael Pettersson
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