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From: Flavio Suligoi <f.suligoi@asem.it>
To: Daniel Thompson <daniel.thompson@linaro.org>
Cc: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>, Jingoo Han <jingoohan1@gmail.com>,
	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"linux-leds@vger.kernel.org" <linux-leds@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v3 1/2] dt-bindings: backlight: Add MPS MP3309C
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 08:56:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM8PR01MB804533DE0885FFC6A46A7C97F9C9A@AM8PR01MB8045.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231005125824.GC4874@aspen.lan>

HI Daniel,

...
> > ...
> > > ...
> > > > > > > +required:
> > > > > > > +  - compatible
> > > > > > > +  - reg
> > > > > > > +  - max-brightness
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why is this mandatory?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There's no point in setting max-brightness when running in I2C
> > > > > > mode
> > > > > > (max- brightness should default to 31 in that case).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > +  - default-brightness
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again. I'm not clear why this needs to be mandatory.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, you are right, I'll remove max-brightness and
> > > > > default-brightness from required properties list. I think to
> > > > > change these properties, for the pwm dimming, into a clearer:
> > > > >
> > > > > - brightness-levels (uint32)
> > > > > - default-brightness-levels (uint32).
> > > > >
> > > > > For example:
> > > > >
> > > > >   brightness-levels:
> > > > >     description:
> > > > >       Number of brightness levels. The actual brightness
> > > > >       level (PWM duty cycle) will be interpolated from 0 to this value.
> > > > >       0 means a  0% duty cycle (darkest/off), while the
> > > > > brightness-levels
> > > > represents
> > > > >       a 100% duty cycle (brightest).
> > > > >     $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
> > > > >
> > > > >   default-brightness-level:
> > > > >     description:
> > > > >       The default brightness level (from 0 to brightness-levels)
> > > > >     $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
> > > > >
> > > > > Example:
> > > > > brightness-levels = <10>;
> > > > > default-brightness-level = <6>;
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you think about this solution?
> > > >
> > > > If you want to introduce a brightness-levels property then I would
> > > > expect it to be defined with the same meaning as pwm-backlight
> > > > (it's not relevant to the bindings but ideally it would be
> > > > implemented by refactoring and reusing the code from pwm_bl.c).
> > >
> > > ok, I'll use the brightness-levels property as used in pwm-backlight
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Same with default-brightness-level although I'm not sure why one
> > > > wouldn't just use default-brightness for new bindings (doesn't
> > > > default-brightness-level simply do exactly the same thing as
> > > > default-
> > > brightness).
> > >
> > > ok for default-brightness instead of default-brightness-level
> >
> > Just a question: default-brightness-level is the index into the brightness-
> levels array.
> > But, if I use default-brightness instead of default-brightness-level,
> > should I consider default-brightness also as an index into brightness-levels
> array?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> 
> > Or, in this case, have the default-brightness to be equal to one of
> > the values inside the brightness-levels array?
> 
> When there is a brightness array (and there is no interpolation) then it is
> indexed by brightness. The values in the array are not brightness (e.g. the
> controlable value describing the output of the hardware). The values in the
> table are merely the PWM duty cycle...

ok

> 
> Main difference is, with a correct table the brightness can use an appropriate
> logarithmic power scale (which matches how humans perceive
> brightness) instead of the linear scale provided by the PWM duty cycle.
> 
> 
> Daniel.
> 
> 
> Brightness and "index into the brightness-levels array" should be one and the
> same thing

ok, I'll use default-brightness, thanks for the explanations!

> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Daniel.
> > >
> > > Thanks an best regards,
> > > Flavio
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Flavio

Flavio

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-06  8:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-25 12:26 [PATCH v3 1/2] dt-bindings: backlight: Add MPS MP3309C Flavio Suligoi
2023-09-25 12:26 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] backlight: mp3309c: Add support for " Flavio Suligoi
2023-09-26 13:10   ` Daniel Thompson
2023-10-03  9:45     ` Flavio Suligoi
2023-09-26 13:01 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] dt-bindings: backlight: Add " Daniel Thompson
2023-10-03  9:43   ` Flavio Suligoi
2023-10-03 10:21     ` Daniel Thompson
2023-10-03 16:00       ` Flavio Suligoi
2023-10-04 15:18         ` Flavio Suligoi
2023-10-05 12:58           ` Daniel Thompson
2023-10-06  8:56             ` Flavio Suligoi [this message]
2023-09-28 14:03 ` (subset) " Lee Jones

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