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From: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
To: John Williams <john.williams@petalogix.com>
Cc: Wolfram Sang <w.sang@pengutronix.de>,
	Michal Simek <monstr@monstr.eu>,
	devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hjk@hansjkoch.de, arnd@arndb.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] uio/pdrv_genirq: Add OF support
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 08:49:31 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTin-qL3ppG1jRjBu3S16SWcNjD=3kA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTin0krYi+MqngSQ5n-752vDa_a8ZtA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 6:37 AM, John Williams
<john.williams@petalogix.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca> wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:58:25AM +1000, John Williams wrote:
>>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Wolfram Sang <w.sang@pengutronix.de> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> >> For example with "uio" compatible string:
>>> >> static const struct of_device_id __devinitconst uio_of_genirq_match[] = {
>>> >>       { .compatible = "uio", },
>>> >>       { /* empty for now */ },
>>> >> };
>>> >
>>> > Please use a proper example with "vendor,device".
>>> > (And after that it won't be empty anymore)
>>>
>>> My vote is, and always has been 'generic-uio' :)
>>>
>>> Putting some random vendor/device string in there is just nuts. Do you
>>> really want a kernel patch every time some one binds their device to
>>> it?
>>>
>>> Or, is there no expectation that anybody would attempt to merge such a
>>> pointless patch to begin with?
>>>
>>> As we discussed at ELC, putting a real vendor/device in there is also
>>> broken because all instances in the system wil bind to the generic
>>> uio, which is not necessarily what is desired.
>>>
>>> I know the arguments against the 'generic-uio' tag, but come on, let's
>>> look at the lesser of two evils here!  I call BS on this DTS purity.
>>
>> Call it what you like, but the reasons are well founded.  The alternative
>> that has been proposed which I am in agreement with is to investigate
>> giving userspace the hook to tell the kernel at runtime which devices
>> should be picked up by the uio driver.
>
> OK, so let's talk about this interface.  As I see it, it must be able
> to handle bind per-instance, not per compatibility.
>
> For example, we make systems with multiple, identical timers.  One
> will be used as the system timer, the others need to be (optionally)
> bound to generic UIO.
>
> Therefore, it's not OK to just do
>
> echo "vendor,device" >> /sys/class/something/generic-uio/compatlist
>
> or whatever, as this would bind all instances matching vendor,device.
>
> So, the question I have is, how to handle bind per-instance?

By manipulating a property on the device instance of course!  :-)

Something like:  echo "generic-uio" >>
/sys/devices/path/to/device/a-property-that-changes-the-driver-it-will-bind-to.

>> In the mean time, explicitly modifying the match table is an okay
>> compromise.
>
> My mind is still boggling that in this day and age it could possibly
> be preferred to modify code, instead of a data structure.  However,
> clearly this is a lost cause!

I don't think anybody wants this as a long term solution.  It is
merely a stop-gap so that development is not stalled while working out
a real interface.

g.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-19 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-18  8:50 [PATCH v3] uio/pdrv_genirq: Add OF support Michal Simek
2011-04-18 10:35 ` Paul Mundt
     [not found]   ` <20110418103513.GA27864-M7jkjyW5wf5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-18 11:10     ` Michal Simek
     [not found] ` <1303116654-5042-1-git-send-email-monstr-pSz03upnqPeHXe+LvDLADg@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-18 16:06   ` Wolfram Sang
     [not found]     ` <20110418160658.GD23814-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-19  1:58       ` John Williams
2011-04-19  6:11         ` Grant Likely
2011-04-19  7:32           ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]             ` <201104190932.31777.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-19  8:42               ` Michal Simek
2011-04-19 12:37           ` John Williams
2011-04-19 13:02             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-19 14:49             ` Grant Likely [this message]
2011-04-19 15:07               ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                 ` <201104191707.40456.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-19 15:45                   ` Grant Likely
     [not found]         ` <BANLkTimFnfgiQ5aMq_KwqHP8p92pjOJJwg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-21 12:08           ` Wolfram Sang
     [not found]             ` <20110421120855.GC2135-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-21 23:46               ` John Williams
2011-04-22  6:07                 ` Wolfram Sang
2011-04-19  8:16       ` Michal Simek
2011-04-19  6:08 ` Grant Likely
2011-04-19  8:15   ` Michal Simek
2011-04-19 22:00   ` Hans J. Koch
2011-04-19 23:09     ` Scott Wood
2011-04-27 11:05   ` Michal Simek

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