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From: Dave Martin <dave.martin-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "patches-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org"
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	Rob Herring <rob.herring-CfjtxxwdHycX+EX/Zwu52A@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: vexpress: initial device tree support
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:17:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+wbFdcOSC6YfsmLndM9CCg2WC9GbQqHmgzk3r8JKs71Bsn8Xg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1316620877.4611.647.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Pawel Moll <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-09-21 at 15:57 +0100, Grant Likely wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> > On 09/21/2011 04:19 AM, Dave Martin wrote:
>> >>       * arm,amba-bus -- widely used by other boards and patchsets, but
>> >>         seems not to be documented.
>> >>
>> >
>> > This should be dropped. There's not really any bus component to an amba
>> > bus. All the probing info is within the primecell peripherals.
>>
>> No, if it is an AMBA bus, then it is entirely appropriate to declare
>> it as an amba bus, but to also be compatible with "simple-bus".  In
>> fact, it would be better to use a compatible string that specifies the
>> specific implementation of AMBA bus since there are several versions
>> of the spec.
>
> Dave asked me about details of the VE implementation. It's
> sort-of-complicated... ;-)
>
> 1. Core talks to Static Memory Controller via AMBA (AXI)
>
>   SOC { core --AXI--> SMC }
>
> 2. SMC generates transaction on Static Memory Bus talking to the IO FPGA
>
>   tile/motherboard connector { SMC --SMB--> IOFPGA }
>
> 3. Now, depending on the device being accessed:
>
> a) Transactions accessing SMSC9118, ISP1761, NOR Flash and PSRAM are
> routed directly to the devices
>
>   IOFPGA { SMB --> SMSC9118 et al. }
>
> b) The rest of the traffic is converted back to AMBA (AHB/APB)
> transactions and sent to the devices connected to internal AMBA matrix.
>
>   IOFPGA { SMB --> AHB/APB bus master --AHB/APB--> PL180 }
>
> I don't believe, though, that the DTS must reflect such level of
> details. That's why I think that:
>
> +       motherboard {
> +               compatible = "simple-bus";
>
> and
>
> +               peripherals@7,00000000 {
> +                       compatible = "arm,amba-bus", "simple-bus";
>
> is the best description of the reality :-)

I wonder whether an OS will ever need to know this detail.

Am I right in understanding that these buses are just interconnect
logic, with no OS-visible control/configuration interface?

Cheers
---Dave

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-21 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-21  9:19 [PATCH] ARM: vexpress: initial device tree support Dave Martin
     [not found] ` <1316596786-2539-1-git-send-email-dave.martin-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-21 13:24   ` Rob Herring
     [not found]     ` <4E79E588.6010703-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-21 14:24       ` Dave Martin
2011-09-21 14:33         ` Pawel Moll
     [not found]           ` <1316615590.4611.624.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-21 15:49             ` Dave Martin
2011-09-21 14:57       ` Grant Likely
2011-09-21 16:01         ` Pawel Moll
     [not found]           ` <1316620877.4611.647.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-21 16:17             ` Dave Martin [this message]
2011-09-21 16:28               ` Pawel Moll
     [not found]         ` <CACxGe6sTYYXbpXvPb4C+y4JX0eRxLvwjbFycXA8Mjc-XWS1QUA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-21 16:37           ` Rob Herring
     [not found]             ` <4E7A12E2.9040107-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-21 17:15               ` Dave Martin
     [not found]                 ` <20110921171545.GG2872-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-21 17:47                   ` Mitch Bradley
     [not found]                     ` <4E7A2334.7020904-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-22 12:19                       ` Dave Martin
2012-01-09 23:26   ` Tabi Timur-B04825
     [not found]     ` <CAOZdJXXPJEaFO-ymvb_TsTJ6W2T7_aWXA=9RZprVmKBOn9cu8A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-10  0:42       ` Mitch Bradley
     [not found]         ` <4F0B897A.20502-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-10  2:24           ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-01-10 12:22         ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]           ` <20120110122252.GA7180-DqlFc3psUjeg7Qil/0GVWOc42C6kRsbE@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-10 21:58             ` Timur Tabi
     [not found]               ` <4F0CB485.9010106-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-10 22:35                 ` Mitch Bradley
     [not found]                   ` <4F0CBD46.2010909-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-10 23:55                     ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                       ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF177EE3A59C-C7FfzLzN0UxDw2glCA4ptUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-11  0:02                         ` Timur Tabi
2012-01-11  0:28                     ` Timur Tabi
     [not found]                       ` <4F0CD7BC.7080409-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-11  6:43                         ` Mitch Bradley
     [not found]                           ` <4F0D2F90.8020801-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-11 20:17                             ` Timur Tabi
     [not found]                               ` <4F0DEE4F.3080103-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-11 23:20                                 ` Mitch Bradley
     [not found]                                   ` <4F0E1923.4090703-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-11 23:32                                     ` Timur Tabi
2012-01-11 20:29                           ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                             ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF177EE3A770-C7FfzLzN0UxDw2glCA4ptUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-11 20:32                               ` Timur Tabi
     [not found]                                 ` <4F0DF1E6.40602-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-11 20:36                                   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                     ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF177EE3A777-C7FfzLzN0UxDw2glCA4ptUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-11 21:37                                       ` Timur Tabi
     [not found]                                         ` <4F0E0113.9090703-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-11 21:57                                           ` Stephen Warren
2012-01-12 12:24                                       ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]                                         ` <20120112122406.GG7180-DqlFc3psUjeg7Qil/0GVWOc42C6kRsbE@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-12 16:49                                           ` Stephen Warren
2012-01-11 23:16                               ` Mitch Bradley
     [not found]                                 ` <4F0E1843.7030207-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-12  0:15                                   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                     ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF177EE3A848-C7FfzLzN0UxDw2glCA4ptUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-12  0:38                                       ` Mitch Bradley
     [not found]                                         ` <4F0E2B95.7070402-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-12  0:47                                           ` Mitch Bradley
2012-01-12 16:45                                           ` Stephen Warren
2012-01-12 12:09                                       ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]                                         ` <20120112120920.GF7180-DqlFc3psUjeg7Qil/0GVWOc42C6kRsbE@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-12 16:52                                           ` Stephen Warren
2012-01-10 11:04       ` Dave Martin

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