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From: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	 Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 3/5] pinctrl: add polarfire soc iomux0 pinmux driver
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 13:02:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRpkdaEsa5gSpGxWG8xudMePt12nZaZRCRrW5Bf5JQ0f1K9Zw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251001-backless-cattle-a98db634d7f0@spud>

On Wed, Oct 1, 2025 at 5:45 PM Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org> wrote:

> They're not actually package pins at all that are being configured here,
> it's internal routing inside the FPGA. It does operate on a function
> level, but I don't think there's a neat mapping to the pinctrl subsystem
> which (AFAIU) considers functions to contain groups, which in turn
> contain pins. I suppose it could be thought of that, for example, spi0
> is actually a function containing 4 (or 5, don't ask - or do if you want
> to read a rant about pointlessly confusing design) "pins" in 1 group.
>
> If I could just work in terms of functions only, and avoid groups or
> pins at all, feels (to me ofc) like it'd maybe match the purpose of this
> aspect of the hardware better.

What I would ask myself is whether the abstraction fits the bill,
like if there is a natural set of functions in the silicon, then the code
should reflect that.

When it comes to those:

+static const struct pinctrl_pin_desc mpfs_iomux0_pinctrl_pins[] = {
+       PINCTRL_PIN(0, "spi0"),
+       PINCTRL_PIN(1, "spi1"),

At least be careful with the nouns used: are they really "pins"?
Should they be described as "pins"?

Maybe it is best to come up with some custom struct if not?

Yours,
Linus Walleij

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-13 11:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-26 14:33 [RFC 0/5] microchip mpfs/pic64gx pinctrl questions Conor Dooley
2025-09-26 14:33 ` [RFC 1/5] dt-bindings: pinctrl: add polarfire soc iomux0 pinmux Conor Dooley
2025-09-26 14:33 ` [RFC 2/5] dt-bindings: pinctrl: add pic64gx "gpio2" pinmux Conor Dooley
2025-10-01 11:32   ` Linus Walleij
2025-10-01 15:47     ` Conor Dooley
2025-10-01 15:48       ` Conor Dooley
2025-10-13 10:56       ` Linus Walleij
2025-10-13 11:22         ` Conor Dooley
2025-09-26 14:33 ` [RFC 3/5] pinctrl: add polarfire soc iomux0 pinmux driver Conor Dooley
2025-10-01 11:34   ` Linus Walleij
2025-10-01 11:36     ` Linus Walleij
2025-10-01 15:45       ` Conor Dooley
2025-10-13 11:02         ` Linus Walleij [this message]
2025-10-13 11:42           ` Conor Dooley
2025-10-14 10:27             ` Linus Walleij
2025-09-26 14:33 ` [RFC 4/5] pinctrl: add pic64gx "gpio2" " Conor Dooley
2025-09-26 14:33 ` [RFC 5/5] riscv: dts: microchip: add pinctrl nodes for iomux0 Conor Dooley
2025-10-01 11:29 ` [RFC 0/5] microchip mpfs/pic64gx pinctrl questions Linus Walleij
2025-10-01 16:00   ` Conor Dooley
2025-10-01 16:15   ` Conor Dooley
2025-10-09 15:55     ` Conor Dooley
2025-10-13 13:27       ` Linus Walleij
2025-10-13 13:55         ` Conor Dooley
2025-10-14 10:33           ` Linus Walleij

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