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From: Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com>
To: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Anholt <eric@anholt.net>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
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	Donghwa Lee <dh09.lee@samsung.com>,
	"Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	andi.shyti@samsung.com, jh80.chung@samsung.com,
	cw00.choi@samsung.com, Kukjin Kim <kgene@kernel.org>,
	ML dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Hyungwon Hwang <human.hwang@samsung.com>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Hoegeun Kwon <hoegeun.kwon@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 2/3] drm/panel: Add support for S6E3HA2 panel driver on TM2 board
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 15:29:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACvgo504WEd_pPrjEViH+-i8BNwEjQ-q7MdnYWJ3V6uTB_tk5Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170201145249.GB17698@ulmo.ba.sec>

On 1 February 2017 at 14:52, Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 02:54:53PM -0800, Eric Anholt wrote:
>> Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > [ Unknown signature status ]
>> > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 10:15:10AM -0800, Eric Anholt wrote:
>> >> Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > [ Unknown signature status ]
>> >> > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 09:38:53AM -0500, Sean Paul wrote:
>> >> >> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 09:54:49AM +0100, Thierry Reding wrote:
>> >> >> > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 09:01:07AM +0900, Inki Dae wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > 2017년 01월 24일 10:50에 Hoegeun Kwon 이(가) 쓴 글:
>> >> >> > > > Dear Thierry,
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > Could you please review this patch?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Thierry, I think this patch has been reviewed enough but no comment
>> >> >> > > from you. Seems you are busy. I will pick up this.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Sorry, but that's not how it works. This patch has gone through 8
>> >> >> > revisions within 4 weeks, and I tend to ignore patches like that until
>> >> >> > the dust settles.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Seems like the dust was pretty settled. It was posted on 1/11, pinged on 1/24,
>> >> >> and picked up on 1/31. I don't think it's unreasonable to take it through
>> >> >> another tree after that.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I wonder if drm_panel would benefit from the -misc group maintainership model
>> >> >> as drm_bridge does. By spreading out the workload, the high-maintenance
>> >> >> patches would hopefully find someone to shepherd them through.
>> >> >
>> >> > Except that nobody except me really cares. If we let people take patches
>> >> > through separate trees or group-maintained trees they'll likely go in
>> >> > without too much thought. DRM panel is somewhat different from core DRM
>> >> > in this regard because its infrastructure is minimal and there's little
>> >> > outside the panel-simple driver. So we're still at a stage where we need
>> >> > to fine-tune what drivers should look like and how we can improve.
>> >>
>> >> I would love to care and participate in review, but with the structure
>> >> of your tree you're the only one whose review counts, so I don't
>> >> participate.
>> >
>> > Really? What exactly do you think is special about the structure of my
>> > tree? I require patches to be on dri-devel (I pick them up from the
>> > patchwork instance at freedesktop.org), the tree is publicly available
>> > and reviewed-by tags get picked up automatically by patchwork.
>> >
>> > The panel tree works exactly like any other maintainer tree. And my
>> > review is *not* the only one that counts. I appreciate every Reviewed-by
>> > tag I see on panel patches because it means that I don't have to look as
>> > closely as I have to otherwise.
>> >
>> > It is true that I am responsible for those patches, that's why I get to
>> > have the final word on whether or not a patch gets applied. And that's
>> > no different from any other maintainer tree either.
>>
>> If me reviewing a patch isn't part of unblocking that patch getting in,
>> then I won't bother because all I could end up doing is punishing the
>> developer of the patch.  Contributors have a hard enough time already.
>
> Maybe you should go and read my previous reply again more carefully.
> Perhaps then you'll realize that reviews are in fact helping in getting
> patches merged.
>
> Interestingly my inbox doesn't show you ever bothering to review panel
> patches, so maybe you should be more careful about your assumptions.
>
Gents, it's understandable that emotions might be running high.

What's the point in pointing fingers at each other - there is enough
to go in each direction.
Let us all step back for a second and consider how we can make things better.

I think it'll be nice to have some/most of the common concerns that
Thierry/others comes across documented - in-kernel, blog post, other.
Such that one can reference to specific points as patch falls sub-par.
We all want to have a balance of nicely written driver and quick
merge.

Inki, I believe myself and others have invited you before on
#dri-devel. This is another medium where you can poke devs and from my
experience - it tends to be more efficient, most of the time.

Thanks
Emil

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-01 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20170111063407epcas5p2ffdcda0a9ab0e954f1e441c26403290b@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2017-01-11  6:33 ` [PATCH v8 0/3] Add support for the S6E3HA2 panel on TM2 board Hoegeun Kwon
     [not found]   ` <CGME20170111063407epcas1p46379fc5062afe1268b186514969e225e@epcas1p4.samsung.com>
2017-01-11  6:33     ` [PATCH v8 1/3] dt-bindings: Add support for samsung s6e3ha2 panel binding Hoegeun Kwon
     [not found]       ` <1484116439-7275-2-git-send-email-hoegeun.kwon-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-11  7:43         ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-01-11 12:02       ` Chanwoo Choi
2017-01-13 17:29       ` Rob Herring
     [not found]   ` <CGME20170111063408epcas5p2e6ec091549c3ffed8462fd95d11d3c82@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2017-01-11  6:33     ` [PATCH v8 2/3] drm/panel: Add support for S6E3HA2 panel driver on TM2 board Hoegeun Kwon
2017-01-24  1:50       ` Hoegeun Kwon
2017-01-31  0:01         ` Inki Dae
2017-01-31  8:54           ` Thierry Reding
2017-01-31  9:26             ` Inki Dae
2017-01-31 12:05             ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-02-02 17:58               ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                 ` <20170202175817.GC9055-EkSeR96xj6Pcmrwk2tT4+A@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-03  8:54                   ` Andrzej Hajda
     [not found]                     ` <74940581-911f-ecdb-e503-6ec2ef8a5177-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-03  8:58                       ` Daniel Vetter
2017-02-06  9:12                         ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-02-06  9:39                           ` Daniel Vetter
2017-02-06 10:39                       ` Thierry Reding
2017-02-07  9:53                         ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-01-31 14:38             ` Sean Paul
2017-01-31 15:02               ` Thierry Reding
2017-01-31 15:49                 ` Sean Paul
2017-01-31 21:17                   ` Thierry Reding
2017-01-31 21:32                     ` Emil Velikov
2017-01-31 18:15                 ` Eric Anholt
2017-01-31 21:31                   ` Thierry Reding
2017-01-31 22:54                     ` Eric Anholt
2017-02-01 14:52                       ` Thierry Reding
2017-02-01 15:29                         ` Emil Velikov [this message]
2017-02-01 19:03                           ` Sean Paul
2017-02-03  5:47                             ` Inki Dae
2017-02-03  4:46                           ` Inki Dae
2017-01-31 23:48                     ` Inki Dae
2017-02-01 14:44                       ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                         ` <20170201144405.GA17698-EkSeR96xj6Pcmrwk2tT4+A@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-02 12:44                           ` Inki Dae
2017-02-02 19:52                             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                     ` <20170131213132.GC872-+E7KM1FDEuO2P7RxrfNFTMXXUOn6P5/W@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-02 15:30                       ` Jani Nikula
     [not found]                         ` <871svgzk2t.fsf-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-02 16:48                           ` Thierry Reding
2017-01-31 21:51                   ` Thierry Reding
2017-02-02 14:24                     ` Daniel Vetter
2017-01-31  9:22           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2017-01-31  9:34             ` Inki Dae
2017-01-31 10:01               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2017-01-31 10:37                 ` Inki Dae
     [not found]                   ` <CAAQKjZNN98pah8ht=kSmwsVybA5cMP=Z6BVkfZ6HH-5rRYFQ9w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-31 11:30                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2017-01-31 12:58                       ` Inki Dae
2017-02-01  5:47             ` Hoegeun Kwon
2017-02-09  8:20       ` Andi Shyti
     [not found]   ` <CGME20170111063408epcas1p4b29b1308a0b8088afd46a475770d4b00@epcas1p4.samsung.com>
2017-01-11  6:33     ` [PATCH v8 3/3] arm64: dts: exynos: Add support for S6E3HA2 panel device " Hoegeun Kwon
2017-01-11  7:46       ` Andrzej Hajda
     [not found]         ` <f292435b-8faa-d2e9-17f6-99a4d00173c5-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-11  8:40           ` Inki Dae
2017-01-11  9:39             ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-01-11 10:23               ` hoegeun kwon
2017-01-11 10:28                 ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-01-11  9:51         ` hoegeun kwon
2017-01-11 10:27           ` hoegeun kwon

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