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From: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: "Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Griffin" <peter.griffin@linaro.org>,
	"André Draszik" <andre.draszik@linaro.org>,
	"Tudor Ambarus" <tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>,
	linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org, "Roy Luo" <royluo@google.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Chen-Yu Tsai" <wenst@chromium.org>,
	"Julius Werner" <jwerner@chromium.org>,
	"William McVicker" <willmcvicker@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] dt-bindings: arm: google: Add bindings for frankel/blazer/mustang
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2025 14:47:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD=FV=ULAvZ3CkSta7bA5ANhen83RJZ2=qczvPM-gC-_eqTfeg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=W5=AVYeZvz_LxC2-7U83yErY0JGc2nZQ37Pf54FH8++A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 10:53 AM Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> > I think it would help if you described what you want to do more
> > generically rather than mixed in with "add a new SoC" and send that to
> > devicetree-spec and perhaps boot-architecture lists. Present the
> > problem, not just the solution.
>
> Sure, though I think the problem has been discussed at length in a
> number of situations before (mailing lists, conferences, etc). Each
> time it seems like it ends up being too complicated and folks hit dead
> ends and stop trying to upstream. Downstream just keeps doing their
> own downstream things because there are tons of people all hitting the
> same problem and there's no upstream solution.
>
> IMO we need to start moving into the realm of solutions. I understand
> that upstream doesn't want to accept some poorly-thought-out scheme
> that will cause long-term grief, but at some point it feels like we
> need to accept something that's "not too bad" so that we can at least
> iterate from there.
>
> After re-reading all the above, it feels like we're not that far from
> a solution, though perhaps you'll read it all and say that you hate it
> and that we're not as close as I thought. ;-)

I've taken your advice and posted to the devicetree-spec and
boot-architecture lists. To connect anyone that was following this
conversation, see:

https://lore.kernel.org/r/CAD=FV=Ux7nGFnYEyX0cUL-9__BKnTYc+kAJjkF458ZnFS7zoJA@mail.gmail.com

I've done my best to include all the concerns / points that were
brought up in this thread.

-Doug

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-18 22:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-11 19:22 [PATCH 0/4] arm64: google: Introduce frankel, blazer, and mustang boards Douglas Anderson
2025-11-11 19:22 ` [PATCH 1/4] dt-bindings: arm: google: Add bindings for frankel/blazer/mustang Douglas Anderson
2025-11-12  7:58   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-12 19:19     ` Doug Anderson
2025-11-13  7:23       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-13 16:23         ` Doug Anderson
2025-11-13 16:34           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-13 17:16             ` Doug Anderson
2025-11-13 17:43               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-13 18:04                 ` Doug Anderson
2025-11-13 18:41                   ` Doug Anderson
2025-11-14  9:26                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-14 15:54                     ` Rob Herring
2025-11-13  2:27   ` Rob Herring
2025-11-13  3:29     ` Doug Anderson
2025-11-14 15:20       ` Rob Herring
2025-11-14 18:53         ` Doug Anderson
2025-11-18 22:47           ` Doug Anderson [this message]
2025-11-11 19:22 ` [PATCH 2/4] dt-bindings: serial: snps-dw-apb-uart: Add "google,lga-uart" Douglas Anderson
2025-11-12  7:59   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-11 19:22 ` [PATCH 3/4] arm64: dts: google: Add dts directory for Google-designed silicon Douglas Anderson
2025-11-12  8:10   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-12 12:26     ` Peter Griffin
2025-11-12 12:36       ` Linus Walleij
2025-11-12 12:43         ` Peter Griffin
2025-11-11 19:22 ` [PATCH 4/4] arm64: dts: google: Add initial dts for frankel, blazer, and mustang Douglas Anderson
2025-11-12  8:14   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-12  9:35     ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2025-11-12  9:48       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-12 20:59         ` Doug Anderson
2025-11-17  6:43         ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2025-11-17  6:55           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-17  7:01             ` Chen-Yu Tsai

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