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From: Will Whang <will@willwhang.com>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	 Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	 Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	 Pengutronix Kernel Team <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	 Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org,  devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, imx@lists.linux.dev,
	 linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] dt-bindings: media: Add Sony IMX585 CMOS image sensor
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 21:30:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFoNnrzWot_Bf=YZFac1GkZgOOnJycwpidvwL93p3p-C-zn8BA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250812095543.GJ30054@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>

On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 2:56 AM Laurent Pinchart
<laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 08:47:12AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > On 12/08/2025 08:31, Will Whang wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 11:23 PM Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >> On 12/08/2025 04:47, Will Whang wrote:
> > >>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 1:01 AM Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >>>> On Sun, Aug 10, 2025 at 11:09:18PM +0100, Will Whang wrote:
> > >>>>> +description:
> > >>>>> +  IMX585 sensor is a Sony CMOS sensor with 4K and FHD outputs.
> > >>>>> +
> > >>>>> +properties:
> > >>>>> +  compatible:
> > >>>>> +    enum:
> > >>>>> +      - sony,imx585
> > >>>>> +      - sony,imx585-mono
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I don't understand this second compatible. Is this different hardware?
> > >>>> Can you point me to "mono" datasheet?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Your description should explain this. Commit msg as well, instead of
> > >>>> speaking about driver (in fact drop all driver related comments).
> > >>>>
> > >>> Mono version of this sensor is basically just removing the bayer
> > >>> filter, so the sensor itself actually doesn't know if it is color or
> > >>> mono and from my knowledge there are no registers programmed in the
> > >>> factory that will show the variant and model number. (That is why when
> > >>> the driver probing it only test blacklevel register because there are
> > >>> no ID registers)
> > >>> Originally in V1 patch I've made the switch between color and mono in
> > >>> dtoverlay config but reviewer comments is to move it to compatible
> > >>> string and not property.(https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/20250703175121.GA17709@pendragon.ideasonboard.com/)
> > >>
> > >> You only partially answer and judging by mentioning driver below:
> > >>
> > >>> In this case, what would you recommend?
> > >>>
> > >>> compatible:
> > >>>   enum:
> > >>>     - sony,imx585
> > >>>     - sony,imx585-mono
> > >>>   description: IMX585 has two variants, color and mono which the
> > >>> driver supports both.
> > >>
> > >> ... I still have doubts that you really understand what I am asking. Is
> > >> this one device or two different devices?
> > >
> > > One device that has two variants: IMX585-AAMJ1 (Mono) and IMX585-AAQJ1
> > > (Color). Silicon-wise the difference is just with or without bayer
> > > filter.
> >
> > Then I would propose to use sony,imx585-aamj1 and -aaqj1 with short
> > explanation either in comment or description about difference in RGB
> > mosaic filter.
>
> Works for me. We could possibly omit the "j1" suffix too.
>
My thinking is that imx585 and imx585-mono are easier to comprehend
than IMX585-AAM and IMX585-AAQ.
Because in dtoverlay for the users/me they will have to know what is
the exact name instead of easy to remember name.

dtoverlay=imx585-aam
is not as nice as
dtoverlay=imx585-mono

which is what it does, a mono variant of the sensor.

I really don't understand the standard for compatible string naming
here, is there something I missed? Is it required to use the full name
of the sensor parts number as a compatible string?

> --
> Regards,
>
> Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-13  4:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-10 22:09 [PATCH v2 0/4] media: Add Sony IMX585 image sensor support Will Whang
2025-08-10 22:09 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] dt-bindings: media: Add Sony IMX585 CMOS image sensor Will Whang
2025-08-11  8:00   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-12  2:47     ` Will Whang
2025-08-12  6:23       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-12  6:31         ` Will Whang
2025-08-12  6:47           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-12  9:55             ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-13  4:30               ` Will Whang [this message]
2025-08-13  6:00                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-13  6:38                   ` Will Whang
2025-08-13  7:34                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-10 22:09 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] media: uapi: Add custom IMX585 control IDs Will Whang
2025-08-10 22:09 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] media: i2c: imx585: Add Sony IMX585 image-sensor driver Will Whang
2025-08-11  8:05   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-11  8:06   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-16 19:44     ` Will Whang
2025-08-17  6:13       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-10 22:09 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] media: docs: Add userspace-API guide for the IMX585 driver Will Whang
2025-08-11 14:17   ` Dave Stevenson
2025-08-12  2:31     ` Will Whang
2025-08-12 11:28       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-13  4:20         ` Will Whang

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