From: Tamir Duberstein <tamird@gmail.com>
To: Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>
Cc: "Michal Rostecki" <vadorovsky@protonmail.com>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Brendan Higgins" <brendan.higgins@linux.dev>,
"David Gow" <davidgow@google.com>, "Rae Moar" <rmoar@google.com>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
"Luis Chamberlain" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
"Russ Weight" <russ.weight@linux.dev>,
"FUJITA Tomonori" <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>,
"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
"Saravana Kannan" <saravanak@google.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>, "Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
"Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>,
"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
"Nick Desaulniers" <nick.desaulniers+lkml@gmail.com>,
"Bill Wendling" <morbo@google.com>,
"Justin Stitt" <justinstitt@google.com>,
"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>, "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kwilczynski@kernel.org>,
"Dave Ertman" <david.m.ertman@intel.com>,
"Ira Weiny" <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
"Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>,
"Breno Leitao" <leitao@debian.org>,
"Viresh Kumar" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
"Michael Turquette" <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@kernel.org>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, kunit-dev@googlegroups.com,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, llvm@lists.linux.dev,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-clk@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 2/5] rust: support formatting of foreign types
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 18:41:23 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ-ks9=WmuXLJ6KkMEOP2jTvM_YBJO10SNsq0DU2J+_d4jp7qw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DB2PIGAQHCJR.3BF8ZHECYH3KB@kernel.org>
On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 4:36 PM Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu Jul 3, 2025 at 8:55 PM CEST, Tamir Duberstein wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 11:08 AM Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org> wrote:
> >> On Thu Jul 3, 2025 at 3:55 PM CEST, Tamir Duberstein wrote:
> >> > On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 5:32 AM Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org> wrote:
> >> >> On Tue Jul 1, 2025 at 6:49 PM CEST, Tamir Duberstein wrote:
> >> >> > Introduce a `fmt!` macro which wraps all arguments in
> >> >> > `kernel::fmt::Adapter` and a `kernel::fmt::Display` trait. This enables
> >> >> > formatting of foreign types (like `core::ffi::CStr`) that do not
> >> >> > implement `core::fmt::Display` due to concerns around lossy conversions which
> >> >> > do not apply in the kernel.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Replace all direct calls to `format_args!` with `fmt!`.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Replace all implementations of `core::fmt::Display` with implementations
> >> >> > of `kernel::fmt::Display`.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Suggested-by: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
> >> >> > Link: https://rust-for-linux.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/288089-General/topic/Custom.20formatting/with/516476467
> >> >> > Acked-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
> >> >> > Reviewed-by: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
> >> >> > Signed-off-by: Tamir Duberstein <tamird@gmail.com>
> >> >> > ---
> >> >> > drivers/block/rnull.rs | 2 +-
> >> >> > drivers/gpu/nova-core/gpu.rs | 4 +-
> >> >> > rust/kernel/block/mq.rs | 2 +-
> >> >> > rust/kernel/device.rs | 2 +-
> >> >> > rust/kernel/fmt.rs | 89 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >> > rust/kernel/kunit.rs | 6 +--
> >> >> > rust/kernel/lib.rs | 1 +
> >> >> > rust/kernel/prelude.rs | 3 +-
> >> >> > rust/kernel/print.rs | 4 +-
> >> >> > rust/kernel/seq_file.rs | 2 +-
> >> >> > rust/kernel/str.rs | 22 ++++------
> >> >> > rust/macros/fmt.rs | 99 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >> > rust/macros/lib.rs | 19 +++++++++
> >> >> > rust/macros/quote.rs | 7 ++++
> >> >> > scripts/rustdoc_test_gen.rs | 2 +-
> >> >> > 15 files changed, 236 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)
> >> >>
> >> >> This would be a lot easier to review if he proc-macro and the call
> >> >> replacement were different patches.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also the `kernel/fmt.rs` file should be a different commit.
> >> >
> >> > Can you help me understand why? The changes you ask to be separated
> >> > would all be in different files, so why would separate commits make it
> >> > easier to review?
> >>
> >> It takes less time to go through the entire patch and give a RB. I can
> >> take smaller time chunks and don't have to get back into the entire
> >> context of the patch when I don't have 30-60min available.
> >
> > Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah, the requirement to RB the entire patch
> > does mean there's a benefit to smaller patches.
> >
> >> In this patch the biggest problem is the rename & addition of new
> >> things, maybe just adding 200 lines in those files could be okay to go
> >> together, see below for more.
> >
> > After implementing your suggestion of re-exporting things from
> > `kernel::fmt` the diffstat is
> >
> > 26 files changed, 253 insertions(+), 51 deletions(-)
> >
> > so I guess I could do all the additions in one patch, but then
> > *everything* else has to go in a single patch together because the
> > formatting macros either want core::fmt::Display or
> > kernel::fmt::Display; they can't work in a halfway state.
>
> I don't understand, can't you just do:
>
> * add `rust/kernel/fmt.rs`,
> * add `rust/macros/fmt.rs`,
> * change all occurrences of `core::fmt` to `kernel::fmt` and
> `format_args!` to `fmt!`.
Yes, such a split could be done - I will do so in the next spin
> The last one could be split by subsystem, no? Some subsystems might
> interact and thus need simultaneous splitting, but there should be some
> independent ones.
Yes, it probably can. As you say, some subsystems might interact - the
claimed benefit of doing this subsystem-by-subsystem split is that it
avoids conflicts with ongoing work that will conflict with a large
patch, but this is also the downside; if ongoing work changes the set
of interactions between subsystems then a maintainer may find
themselves unable to emit the log message they want (because one
subsystem is using kernel::fmt while another is still on core::fmt).
>
> >> > I prefer to keep things in one commit because the changes are highly
> >> > interdependent. The proc macro doesn't make sense without
> >> > kernel/fmt.rs and kernel/fmt.rs is useless without the proc macro.
> >>
> >> I think that `Adapter`, the custom `Display` and their impl blocks
> >> don't need to be in the same commit as the proc-macro. They are related,
> >> but maybe someone is not well-versed in proc-macros and thus doesn't
> >> want to review that part.
> >
> > Sure, I guess I will split them. But as noted above: changing the
> > formatting macros and all the types' trait implementations has to be a
> > "flag day" change.
>
> See above.
>
> >> >> > +impl_fmt_adapter_forward!(Debug, LowerHex, UpperHex, Octal, Binary, Pointer, LowerExp, UpperExp);
> >> >> > +
> >> >> > +/// A copy of [`fmt::Display`] that allows us to implement it for foreign types.
> >> >> > +///
> >> >> > +/// Types should implement this trait rather than [`fmt::Display`]. Together with the [`Adapter`]
> >> >> > +/// type and [`fmt!`] macro, it allows for formatting foreign types (e.g. types from core) which do
> >> >> > +/// not implement [`fmt::Display`] directly.
> >> >> > +///
> >> >> > +/// [`fmt!`]: crate::prelude::fmt!
> >> >> > +pub trait Display {
> >> >> > + /// Same as [`fmt::Display::fmt`].
> >> >> > + fn fmt(&self, f: &mut fmt::Formatter<'_>) -> fmt::Result;
> >> >> > +}
> >> >> > +
> >> >> > +impl<T: ?Sized + Display> Display for &T {
> >> >> > + fn fmt(&self, f: &mut fmt::Formatter<'_>) -> fmt::Result {
> >> >> > + Display::fmt(*self, f)
> >> >> > + }
> >> >> > +}
> >> >> > +
> >> >> > +impl<T: ?Sized + Display> fmt::Display for Adapter<&T> {
> >> >> > + fn fmt(&self, f: &mut fmt::Formatter<'_>) -> fmt::Result {
> >> >> > + let Self(t) = self;
> >> >> > + Display::fmt(t, f)
> >> >>
> >> >> Why not `Display::fmt(&self.0, f)`?
> >> >
> >> > I like destructuring because it shows me that there's only one field.
> >> > With `self.0` I don't see that.
> >>
> >> And what is the benefit here?
> >
> > In general the benefit is that the method does not ignore some portion
> > of `Self`. A method that uses `self.0` would not provoke a compiler
> > error in case another field is added, while this form would.
>
> Yeah, but why would that change happen here? And even if it got another
> field, why would that invalidate the impl of `fn fmt`?
I don't know, but I would rather force a person to make that decision
when they add another field rather than assume that such an addition
wouldn't require changes here.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-03 22:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-01 16:49 [PATCH v13 0/5] rust: replace kernel::str::CStr w/ core::ffi::CStr Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-01 16:49 ` [PATCH v13 1/5] rust: macros: reduce collections in `quote!` macro Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-01 16:49 ` [PATCH v13 2/5] rust: support formatting of foreign types Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-03 9:32 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 13:55 ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-03 15:08 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 18:55 ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-03 19:16 ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-03 20:36 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 22:41 ` Tamir Duberstein [this message]
2025-07-03 23:23 ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-04 10:09 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-04 11:58 ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-04 12:15 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-04 19:38 ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-05 8:04 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-07-04 7:57 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-07-04 10:05 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 21:28 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-07-03 21:38 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-03 22:45 ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-04 7:46 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-07-04 8:40 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-03 16:26 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-03 18:57 ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-01 16:49 ` [PATCH v13 3/5] rust: replace `CStr` with `core::ffi::CStr` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-04 13:00 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-04 19:38 ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-01 16:49 ` [PATCH v13 4/5] rust: replace `kernel::c_str!` with C-Strings Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-04 13:01 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-04 19:38 ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-01 16:49 ` [PATCH v13 5/5] rust: remove core::ffi::CStr reexport Tamir Duberstein
2025-07-01 17:07 ` [PATCH v13 0/5] rust: replace kernel::str::CStr w/ core::ffi::CStr Miguel Ojeda
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to='CAJ-ks9=WmuXLJ6KkMEOP2jTvM_YBJO10SNsq0DU2J+_d4jp7qw@mail.gmail.com' \
--to=tamird@gmail.com \
--cc=a.hindborg@kernel.org \
--cc=airlied@gmail.com \
--cc=alex.gaynor@gmail.com \
--cc=aliceryhl@google.com \
--cc=andrew@lunn.ch \
--cc=arnd@arndb.de \
--cc=axboe@kernel.dk \
--cc=bhelgaas@google.com \
--cc=bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com \
--cc=boqun.feng@gmail.com \
--cc=brendan.higgins@linux.dev \
--cc=dakr@kernel.org \
--cc=davem@davemloft.net \
--cc=david.m.ertman@intel.com \
--cc=davidgow@google.com \
--cc=devicetree@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org \
--cc=edumazet@google.com \
--cc=fujita.tomonori@gmail.com \
--cc=gary@garyguo.net \
--cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
--cc=hkallweit1@gmail.com \
--cc=ira.weiny@intel.com \
--cc=justinstitt@google.com \
--cc=kuba@kernel.org \
--cc=kunit-dev@googlegroups.com \
--cc=kwilczynski@kernel.org \
--cc=leitao@debian.org \
--cc=leon@kernel.org \
--cc=linux-block@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-clk@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-pci@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-pm@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux@armlinux.org.uk \
--cc=llvm@lists.linux.dev \
--cc=longman@redhat.com \
--cc=lossin@kernel.org \
--cc=maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com \
--cc=mcgrof@kernel.org \
--cc=mingo@redhat.com \
--cc=morbo@google.com \
--cc=mripard@kernel.org \
--cc=mturquette@baylibre.com \
--cc=nathan@kernel.org \
--cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=nick.desaulniers+lkml@gmail.com \
--cc=nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org \
--cc=ojeda@kernel.org \
--cc=pabeni@redhat.com \
--cc=peterz@infradead.org \
--cc=rafael@kernel.org \
--cc=rmoar@google.com \
--cc=robh@kernel.org \
--cc=russ.weight@linux.dev \
--cc=rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=saravanak@google.com \
--cc=sboyd@kernel.org \
--cc=simona@ffwll.ch \
--cc=tmgross@umich.edu \
--cc=tzimmermann@suse.de \
--cc=vadorovsky@protonmail.com \
--cc=viresh.kumar@linaro.org \
--cc=will@kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).