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From: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@sonymobile.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>, Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	Vinay Simha BN <simhavcs@gmail.com>,
	Haojian Zhuang <haojian.zhuang@linaro.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	Andy Gross <agross@codeaurora.org>,
	"linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] misc: Introduce reboot_reason driver
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 10:56:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALAqxLUKRFgg4pc-sJfOD_mDv8Afn-tzGuhNJzprheq4CEXUcw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1721197.gFcIQMjGvs@wuerfel>

On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 December 2015 17:19:52 John Stultz wrote:
>>
>> If the concern is that since DT is basically ABI, one might not want
>> to have such a wide interface that specifies all the different
>> reasons, I can understand that. Though I'm really not sure how else we
>> would be able to specify the device supported the reboot reason logic
>> w/o having something in the DT (since some device may use the same soc
>> w/  the same reboot logic may use a different bootloader which doesn't
>> support the reason methods). At that point if we don't describe the
>> method clearly, it ends up being something closer to just a quirks
>> list which we'd have to map internally to behavior, which doesn't seem
>> great.
>>
>> Should we run into hardware that the proposed driver doesn't handle,
>> we can introduce a new driver for those specific semantics, but this
>> way we can share at least most of the logic, no?
>
> I think we need a layered approach, with some high-level code to
> store the boot reason, but then support firmware specific backends
> to that. If we just need a phandle for an SRAM partition and an offset
> within it, that can be done by the high-level driver, but not
> any of the more sophisticated communication methods.

Hrm. This feels to me like over-design, though. We already have the
restart notifiers to hook into, which provide the command string. So
its just a matter of parsing the string and writing the appropriate
magic in the appropriate way (to memory, registers, efi, whatever).
The amount of code we'd be dealing with to have a front end and 3-4
back-ends, vs having 3-4 separate drivers seems like it would almost
be the same. So why try to make a more complicated infrastructure?

Simply renaming this driver to reboot_reason_sram.c or something makes
it easy to add reboot_reason_efi.c later.

The other part is, while there are many bits of hardware that have
done varied things in the past, I'm not sure how hard we should try to
design a super-infrastructure to support all these different solutions
if no one is pushing them upstream. I'd rather design for what people
are working to merge (admittedly, that's a bit selfish of a statement
here ;), and then hope future hardware chooses to use the same
mechanism, or adapt the infrastructure as folks try to merge new
approaches.

thanks
-john

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-10 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-08 21:29 [RFC][PATCH] misc: Introduce reboot_reason driver John Stultz
2015-12-08 21:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-08 22:15   ` Bjorn Andersson
2015-12-08 22:43     ` Rob Herring
2015-12-09  0:13   ` John Stultz
     [not found]     ` <CALAqxLU4y6+AsKcZSPUaJQ2BgcAWoT8OPcYO6EYfOz+-7r8FTQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09  8:50       ` Sascha Hauer
2015-12-09 21:42         ` John Stultz
     [not found] ` <1449610162-30543-1-git-send-email-john.stultz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-08 22:07   ` Bjorn Andersson
     [not found]     ` <20151208220722.GG4000-P9SbAA3LsXe39TS3lRcy0mP6iJigPa5YXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09  0:22       ` John Stultz
2015-12-09 10:07         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-10  1:19           ` John Stultz
2015-12-10 14:52             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-10 18:56               ` John Stultz [this message]
2015-12-10 20:24                 ` Rob Herring
2015-12-10 21:43                   ` John Stultz
2015-12-10 22:11                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-14 15:22                       ` Rob Herring
2015-12-10  1:32     ` John Stultz
2015-12-10  9:05       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-12-10  9:20         ` Tomas Winkler
2015-12-10 19:04           ` John Stultz
2015-12-10 19:57             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-12-10 20:03               ` John Stultz
2015-12-14 19:54       ` Bjorn Andersson
2015-12-08 22:26 ` Rob Herring
     [not found]   ` <CAL_JsqKMsG79TiB7nAOd8rB5m3VqwJYdQU0xiwvzvaqMyCk1BQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09  0:34     ` John Stultz
2015-12-09  8:53 ` Sascha Hauer
2015-12-09  8:59 ` Sascha Hauer

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