From: Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Laurent Pinchart
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Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
SH-Linux <linux-sh-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Wolfram Sang <wsa-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>,
devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Serial port aliases in DT
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:34:52 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL_JsqLomaOXwzjBiM5ZO8uPCDh1Ue8wv+Gn04B6eKpvzj4OnQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140327151829.GX17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 08:54:09AM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > This however comes back to the more general issue of serial port device
>> >> > naming: Linux traditionally uses separate names per driver (e.g. ttySC0
>> >> > instead of ttyS0).
>> >> >
>> >> > There has been discussion in the past about changing this to let all
>> >> > drivers use the same namespace, but it's not yet clear to me how we'd do
>> >> > this in a 100% backwards compatible way. Maybe it's best left to udev to
>> >> > figure out the driver independent name, but then we definitely should use
>> >> > the alias for that name.
>>
>> This discussion has come up in just the last month or so.
>>
>> My opinion is device name numbering should start at 0 with 0 being the
>> preferred console device.
>
> That's completely different to everything I've heard and seen so far ;)
>
> For specifying the console we have the linux,stdout-path property in the
> chosen node. My preferred console may not be a serial port at all in
> which case I would end up with a serial0 = &lcd0 alias. Many
> devicetrees specify aliases for i2c/spi/mmc controllers aswell. Should
> they order their i2c controllers in the order of preference now?
I was only referring to serial consoles for this discussion.
I don't think expanding aliases usage beyond serial ports is a good
thing. It may work for fixed h/w, but it won't for hotplug cases. This
naming issue has been solved in other ways for other devices: udev
persistent net rules, uuid for disks, etc. It needs to be solved for
serial devices.
> Most dtsi files in the kernel specify a SoC specific order of aliases
> and I think this makes the most sense.
I agree with Arnd here. If we are going to care about the name, it
should be something that makes sense to the user of a board, not the
SOC. Of course, if a board has a serial port labeled "Debug port" or
something, that doesn't tell you the name or index either.
Rob
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-27 20:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-10 11:59 [RFC] Serial port aliases in DT Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-10 12:38 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-03-11 11:56 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-11 12:46 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-03-12 10:40 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-12 10:45 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-03-10 12:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-11 11:57 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-27 12:50 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-27 13:54 ` Rob Herring
2014-03-27 14:43 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-27 15:18 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20140327151829.GX17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-27 18:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-27 18:34 ` Pawel Moll
2014-03-27 20:07 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-03-28 7:28 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20140328072827.GY17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-28 8:09 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-03-28 8:30 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-28 8:39 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
[not found] ` <CAMuHMdVYhGGt7+fR4oHzf-hDvTOWbHfhM2g92eo3RqULd6yR2A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-28 10:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-28 10:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
[not found] ` <CAMuHMdVJ8Jid=bdWLb7g5MP5dFOwDkvoHEbFH4nQD5bWp-2sxw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-28 11:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-28 14:46 ` Rob Herring
2014-03-27 20:34 ` Rob Herring [this message]
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