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From: David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
Cc: "Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Nuno Sá" <nuno.sa@analog.com>,
	"Michael Hennerich" <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
	"Lars-Peter Clausen" <lars@metafoo.de>,
	"David Jander" <david@protonic.nl>,
	"Martin Sperl" <kernel@martin.sperl.org>,
	linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 8/8] iio: adc: ad7944: add support for SPI offload
Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 10:15:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMknhBHMz2OEVGC_e44zoKz6+WLgP07KkOOMbxb6_bidXRm2Bw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240512125202.312d0576@jic23-huawei>

On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 6:52 AM Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 11 May 2024 13:41:09 -0500
> David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 11:58 AM Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 10 May 2024 19:44:31 -0500
> > > David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > This adds support for SPI offload to the ad7944 driver. This allows
> > > > reading data at the max sample rate of 2.5 MSPS.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >
> > > > v2 changes:
> > > >
> > > > In the previous version, there was a new separate driver for the PWM
> > > > trigger and DMA hardware buffer. This was deemed too complex so they
> > > > are moved into the ad7944 driver.
> > > >
> > > > It has also been reworked to accommodate for the changes described in
> > > > the other patches.
> > > >
> > > > RFC: This isn't very polished yet, just FYI. A few things to sort out:
> > > >
> > > > Rather than making the buffer either triggered buffer or hardware buffer,
> > > > I'm considering allowing both, e.g. buffer0 will always be the triggered
> > > > buffer and buffer1 will will be the hardware buffer if connected to a SPI
> > > > controller with offload support, otherwise buffer1 is absent. But since
> > > > multiple buffers haven't been used much so far, more investigation is
> > > > needed to see how that would work in practice. If we do that though, then
> > > > we would always have the sampling_frequency attribute though even though
> > > > it only applies to one buffer.
> > >
> > > Why would someone who has this nice IP in the path want the conventional
> > > triggered buffer?  I'm not against the two buffer option, but I'd like to know
> > > the reasoning not to just provide the hardware buffer if this SPI offload
> > > is available.
> > >
> > > I can conjecture reasons but would like you to write them out for me :)
> > > This feels like if someone has paid for the expensive hardware they probably
> > > only want the best performance.
> > >
> >
> > For me, it was more of a question of if we need to keep the userspace
> > interface consistent between both with or without offload support. But
> > if you are happy with it this way where we have only one or the other,
> > it is less work for me. :-)
>
> So inconsistency in userspace interfaces can occur for many reasons like
> whether the interrupt is wired or not, but in this particularly
> case I guess we have ABI stability issue because there are boards out there
> today and people using the driver without this offload functionality.

FWIW, the ad7944 driver will be landing in 6.10, so no users to speak of yet.

> I'd not really thought that bit through, so I think you are correct that
> we need to maintain the triggered buffer interface and 'add' the new
> ABI for the offloaded case.  The multibuffer approach should work for this.
> Will be interesting if any problem surface from having two very different
> types of buffer on the same device.
>

In this particular case, I think the issues will be:
1. The hardware buffer can't allow the soft timestamp. Otherwise, the
buffer layout is the same (on other chips, we won't always be so
lucky).
2. The hardware trigger (sampling_frequency attribute) will only apply
if there is the SPI offload support.

      reply	other threads:[~2024-05-13 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-11  0:44 [PATCH RFC v2 0/8] spi: axi-spi-engine: add offload support David Lechner
2024-05-11  0:44 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/8] spi: dt-bindings: spi-peripheral-props: add spi-offloads property David Lechner
2024-05-13 16:46   ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-13 17:06     ` David Lechner
2024-05-14 18:46       ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-14 22:56         ` David Lechner
2024-05-16 21:32           ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-17 16:51             ` David Lechner
2024-05-19 12:53               ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-21 14:54                 ` David Lechner
2024-05-22 18:24                   ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-23 12:15                     ` Nuno Sá
2024-05-23 12:45                       ` Mark Brown
2024-05-23 14:31                       ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-23 15:05                       ` David Lechner
2024-05-26 15:42                         ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-26 17:35                       ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-29  8:07                         ` Nuno Sá
2024-05-29  8:33                           ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-30 19:18                           ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-30 21:28                             ` David Lechner
2024-05-31 12:47                               ` Mark Brown
2024-05-31  7:39                             ` Nuno Sá
2024-05-30 19:24                           ` David Lechner
2024-05-31  7:33                             ` Nuno Sá
2024-06-04 19:33                             ` Conor Dooley
2024-06-04 19:39                               ` David Lechner
2024-06-04 19:42                                 ` Conor Dooley
2024-06-04 20:04                                   ` David Lechner
2024-05-23 14:28                     ` David Lechner
2024-05-23 14:57                       ` Nuno Sá
2024-05-23 15:09                         ` David Lechner
2024-05-23 15:30                           ` Nuno Sá
2024-05-26 15:45                       ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-29 20:10                         ` David Lechner
2024-05-30 17:25                           ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-30 18:42                       ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-11  0:44 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/8] spi: add basic support for SPI offloading David Lechner
2024-05-21 11:57   ` Nuno Sá
2024-05-11  0:44 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/8] spi: add support for hardware triggered offload David Lechner
2024-05-11 16:51   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-05-11  0:44 ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/8] spi: add offload xfer flags David Lechner
2024-05-11  0:44 ` [PATCH RFC v2 5/8] spi: dt-bindings: axi-spi-engine: document spi-offloads David Lechner
2024-05-11  0:44 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/8] spi: axi-spi-engine: add offload support David Lechner
2024-05-21 12:31   ` Nuno Sá
2024-05-21 14:28     ` David Lechner
2024-05-22 12:08       ` Nuno Sá
2024-05-11  0:44 ` [PATCH RFC v2 7/8] dt-bindings: iio: adc: adi,ad7944: add SPI offload properties David Lechner
2024-05-11  0:44 ` [PATCH RFC v2 8/8] iio: adc: ad7944: add support for SPI offload David Lechner
2024-05-11 16:58   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-05-11 18:41     ` David Lechner
2024-05-12 11:52       ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-05-13 15:15         ` David Lechner [this message]

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