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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Biju Das <biju.das.jz@bp.renesas.com>
Cc: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	 Kuninori Morimoto <kuninori.morimoto.gx@renesas.com>,
	 Prabhakar Mahadev Lad <prabhakar.mahadev-lad.rj@bp.renesas.com>,
	 "linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/2] arm64: dts: renesas: Re-add voltages to OPP tables
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2024 11:37:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdUVyRcjzaxTB=LqPFtt3Jn5Afrkpp67a5HWThPEXNy47A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <TY3PR01MB113460E688CC3689D94C85F6E867E2@TY3PR01MB11346.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Biju,

On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 11:30 AM Biju Das <biju.das.jz@bp.renesas.com> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>
> > Subject: [PATCH/RFC 0/2] arm64: dts: renesas: Re-add voltages to OPP tables
> >
> > When CONFIG_ENERGY_MODEL=y, an error is printed on RZ/G2E and R-Car E3:
> >
> >     cpu cpu0: EM: invalid perf. state: -22
> >
> > This happens because the Operating Points Parameters tables do not list voltages, as they are all
> > identical.  Previously, it was assumed they were optional, and unused, when none of the CPU nodes is
> > tied to a regulator using the "cpu-supply" property.  This assumption turned out to be incorrect,
> > causing the reported error message.
> >
> > This RFC patch series fixes this by adding the missing voltages.
> >
> > Note that the Energy Model calculates energy efficiency by dividing the
> > (estimated) CPU power consumption by CPU core clock frequency.  When all voltages have the same value,
> > the former is proportional to clock frequency, and energy efficiency becomes a constant.  Hence all
> > operating points are considered to have the same efficiency, and the Energy Model always picks the one
> > with the highest clock rate (see also [1]).
> >
> > Alternatively, the Energy Model could be changed to silently ignore OPP tables with missing
> > frequencies.  IMHO this is not an unusual case.
>
> I guess cooling uses OPP table for frequency down scaling at higher temp. So, we need
> OPP tables for thermal governors??

Yes, you still need OPP tables for thermal governance.
But the Energy Model cannot really use it when the voltages are identical.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-08  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-08  9:14 [PATCH/RFC 0/2] arm64: dts: renesas: Re-add voltages to OPP tables Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08  9:14 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/2] arm64: dts: renesas: r8a774c0: Re-add voltages to OPP table Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08  9:14 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/2] arm64: dts: renesas: r8a77990: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08  9:29 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/2] arm64: dts: renesas: Re-add voltages to OPP tables Biju Das
2024-10-08  9:37   ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2024-10-22 13:36 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-25 15:41   ` Lukasz Luba
2024-10-28 11:34     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-28 13:42       ` Lukasz Luba
2024-11-04 15:15         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-13 16:58           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-12-10 14:28             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-01-24 11:53               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-02-18  8:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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