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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Michal Simek <michal.simek@amd.com>
Cc: "Dragan Simic" <dsimic@manjaro.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	wens@kernel.org, "Rafał Miłecki" <zajec5@gmail.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Matthias Brugger" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	"AngeloGioacchino Del Regno"
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
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	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Bjorn Andersson" <andersson@kernel.org>,
	"Heiko Stuebner" <heiko@sntech.de>,
	"Konrad Dybcio" <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>,
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	"Nishanth Menon" <nm@ti.com>, "Olof Johansson" <olof@lixom.net>,
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	linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] docs: dt-bindings: add DTS Coding Style document
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 09:53:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdWm-gRPHeHyuX3_eR+9chJEw3iiZwCNBnoiRPHzoMAs6w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cc4c789c-b595-41eb-b543-9e03549c6e61@amd.com>

Hi Michal,

On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 9:50 AM Michal Simek <michal.simek@amd.com> wrote:
> On 11/22/23 09:29, Dragan Simic wrote:
> > On 2023-11-22 09:21, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> >> On 22/11/2023 09:09, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 4:05 PM Krzysztof Kozlowski
> >>> <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 21/11/2023 14:50, Rafał Miłecki wrote:
> >>>>>> +Order of Properties in Device Node
> >>>>>> +----------------------------------
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +Following order of properties in device nodes is preferred:
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +1. compatible
> >>>>>> +2. reg
> >>>>>> +3. ranges
> >>>>>> +4. Standard/common properties (defined by common bindings, e.g. without
> >>>>>> +   vendor-prefixes)
> >>>>>> +5. Vendor-specific properties
> >>>>>> +6. status (if applicable)
> >>>>>> +7. Child nodes, where each node is preceded with a blank line
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +The "status" property is by default "okay", thus it can be omitted.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think it would really help to include position of #address-cells and
> >>>>> #size-cells here. In some files I saw them above "compatible" that seems
> >>>>> unintuitive. Some prefer putting them at end which I think makes sense
> >>>>> as they affect children nodes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Whatever you choose it'd be just nice to have things consistent.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is a standard/common property, thus it goes to (4) above.
> >>>
> >>> It's probably a mix, but AFAIK a lot of the device trees in tree have
> >>> #*-cells after "status". In some cases they are added in the board
> >>> .dts files, not the chip/module .dtsi files.
> >>
> >> Existing DTS is not a good example :)
> >>
> >>>
> >>> +1 that it makes sense at the end as they affect child nodes.
> >>
> >> I still insist that status must be the last, because:
> >> 1. Many SoC nodes have address/size cells but do not have any children
> >> (I2C, SPI), so we put useless information at the end.
> >> 2. Status should be the final information to say whether the node is
> >> ready or is not. I read the node, check properties and then look at the end:
> >> a. Lack of status means it is ready.
> >> b. status=disabled means device still needs board resources/customization
> >
> > I agree with the "status" belonging to the very end, because it's both logical
> > and much more readable.  Also, "status" is expected to be modified in the
> > dependent DT files, which makes it kind of volatile and even more deserving to
> > be placed last.
>
> I am just curious if having status property at the end won't affect
> execution/boot up time. Not sure how it is done in Linux but in U-Boot at least
> (we want to have DTs in sync between Linux and U-Boot) of_find_property is
> pretty much big loop over all properties. And status property defined at the end
> means going over all of them to find it out to if device is present.
> Not sure if Linux works in the same way but at least of_get_property is done in
> the same way.

As the default is "okay", you have to loop over all properties anyway.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-22  8:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-20  8:40 [PATCH v2] docs: dt-bindings: add DTS Coding Style document Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-20  9:04 ` Neil Armstrong
2023-11-20  9:38 ` Heiko Stübner
2023-11-20 11:43 ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2023-11-20 14:57   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-21 10:25     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2023-11-20 14:01 ` Michal Simek
2023-11-20 14:53   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-20 19:18     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-11-20 19:31       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-21  7:33         ` Michal Simek
2023-11-21  7:47           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-21  8:08             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-11-21  8:37               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-21 10:13               ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-11-21 10:28                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-21 11:53                   ` Michal Simek
2023-11-21 11:55     ` Michal Simek
2023-11-21 12:36       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-21 16:04         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-11-22  8:01           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-22  8:15             ` Dragan Simic
2023-11-20 20:15 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-11-21  7:36   ` Michal Simek
2023-11-21  7:47   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-22  8:18     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-21 13:50 ` Rafał Miłecki
2023-11-22  8:05   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-22  8:09     ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-22  8:21       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-22  8:28         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-11-22  8:29         ` Dragan Simic
2023-11-22  8:49           ` Michal Simek
2023-11-22  8:53             ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2023-11-22  8:57               ` Michal Simek
2023-11-22  9:09                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-22 14:34                 ` Rob Herring
2023-11-22 14:42                   ` Dragan Simic
2023-11-22  8:59             ` Dragan Simic
2023-11-22 14:55     ` Rob Herring
2023-11-25 18:44       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski

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