From: "Théo Lebrun" <theo.lebrun@bootlin.com>
To: "Kevin Hilman" <khilman@kernel.org>,
"Roger Quadros" <rogerq@kernel.org>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
"Peter Chen" <peter.chen@kernel.org>,
"Pawel Laszczak" <pawell@cadence.com>,
"Nishanth Menon" <nm@ti.com>,
"Vignesh Raghavendra" <vigneshr@ti.com>,
"Tero Kristo" <kristo@kernel.org>,
"Vardhan, Vibhore" <vibhore@ti.com>
Cc: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
"Grégory Clement" <gregory.clement@bootlin.com>,
"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] usb: cdns3-ti: add suspend/resume procedures for J7200
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:25:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CX9MMPFL7HAY.NGULD1FN5WPN@tleb-bootlin-xps13-01> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7hil5odtwl.fsf@baylibre.com>
Hello,
On Sun Nov 26, 2023 at 11:36 PM CET, Kevin Hilman wrote:
> Théo Lebrun <theo.lebrun@bootlin.com> writes:
> > On Wed Nov 22, 2023 at 11:23 PM CET, Kevin Hilman wrote:
> >> Théo Lebrun <theo.lebrun@bootlin.com> writes:
> >> The point is to signal to the power domain the device is in that it can
> >> power on/off. These IP blocks are (re)used on many different SoCs, so
> >> the driver should not make any assumptions about what power domain it is
> >> in (if any.)
> >
> > On my platform, when the device is attached to the PD it gets turned on.
> > That feels logical to me: if a driver is not RPM aware it "just works".
>
> It "just works"... until the domain gets turned off.
>
> > Are there platforms where RPM must get enabled for the attached
> > power-domains to be turned on?
>
> Yes, but but more importantly, there are platforms where RPM must get
> enabled for the power domain to *stay* on. For example, the power
> domain might get turned on due to devices probing etc, but as soon as
> all the RPM-enabled drivers drop their refcount, the domain will turn
> off. If there is a device in that domain with a non-RPM enabled driver,
> that device will be powered off anc cause a crash.
OK, that makes sense, thanks for taking the time to explain. This topic
makes me see two things that I feel are close to being bugs. I'd be
curious to get your view on both.
- If a device does not use RPM but its children do, it might get its
associated power-domain turned off. That forces every single driver
that want to stay alive to enable & increment RPM.
What I naively expect: a genpd with a device attached to it that is
not using RPM should mean that it should not be powered off at
runtime_suspend. Benefit: no RPM calls in drivers that do not use
it, and the behavior is that the genpd associated stays alive "as
expected".
- If a device uses RPM & has a refcount strictly positive, its
associated power-domain gets turned off either way at suspend_noirq.
That feels non-intuitive as well.
What I naively expect: check for RPM refcounts of attached devices
when doing suspend_noirq of power-domains. Benefit: control of what
power-domains do from attached devices is done through the RPM API.
Regards,
--
Théo Lebrun, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-27 13:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-13 14:26 [PATCH 0/6] usb: cdns: fix suspend on J7200 by assuming reset on resume Théo Lebrun
2023-11-13 14:26 ` [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: usb: ti,j721e-usb: add ti,j7200-usb compatible Théo Lebrun
2023-11-13 19:58 ` Conor Dooley
2023-11-13 14:26 ` [PATCH 2/6] usb: cdns3-ti: move reg writes from probe into an init_hw helper Théo Lebrun
2023-11-15 11:33 ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-15 14:23 ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-16 12:00 ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-13 14:26 ` [PATCH 3/6] usb: cdns3-ti: add suspend/resume procedures for J7200 Théo Lebrun
2023-11-13 15:39 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2023-11-14 11:13 ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-15 11:37 ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-15 15:02 ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-16 12:40 ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-16 18:56 ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-16 21:44 ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-17 10:17 ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-17 11:51 ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-17 14:20 ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-18 10:41 ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-22 22:23 ` Kevin Hilman
2023-11-23 9:51 ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-26 22:36 ` Kevin Hilman
2023-11-27 13:25 ` Théo Lebrun [this message]
2023-12-12 18:26 ` Kevin Hilman
2023-12-12 19:31 ` Alan Stern
2023-11-13 14:26 ` [PATCH 4/6] usb: cdns3: support power-off of controller when in host role Théo Lebrun
2023-11-14 8:38 ` Peter Chen
2023-11-14 11:10 ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-17 3:38 ` Peter Chen
2023-11-17 9:58 ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20 5:44 ` Peter Chen
2023-11-13 14:27 ` [PATCH 5/6] usb: cdns3-ti: notify cdns core that hardware resets across suspend on J7200 Théo Lebrun
2023-11-13 14:27 ` [PATCH 6/6] arm64: dts: ti: k3-j7200: use J7200-specific USB compatible Théo Lebrun
2023-11-14 10:01 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2023-11-14 11:14 ` Théo Lebrun
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