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From: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
To: Tamir Duberstein <tamird@gmail.com>,
	Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
Cc: "Masahiro Yamada" <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Nicolas Schier" <nicolas@fjasle.eu>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/6] rust: use strict provenance APIs
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 09:44:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D8GQRANRVU11.SI7SZ8RAXXF@proton.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-ks9=Ec0xLg81GUYJ07uDzwtwhFkoEdxaa3kNtV6xSjZ57MQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri Mar 14, 2025 at 11:20 PM CET, Tamir Duberstein wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 6:00 PM Miguel Ojeda
> <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 9:18 PM Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me> wrote:
>> >
>> > I don't know when we'll be bumping the minimum version. IIRC 1.85.0 is
>> > going to be in debian trixie, so eventually we could bump it to that,
>> > but I'm not sure what the time frame will be for that.
>> >
>> > Maybe we can salvage this effort by gating both the lint and the
>> > unstable features on the versions where it works? @Miguel, what's your
>> > opinion?
>> >
>> > We could even make it simple, requiring 1.84 and not bothering with the
>> > older versions.
>>
>> Regarding Debian Trixie: unknown, since my understanding is that it
>> does not have a release date yet, but apparently mid May is the Hard
>> Freeze and then it may take e.g. a month or two to the release.
>>
>> And when it releases, we may want to wait a while before bumping it,
>> depending on how much time has passed since Rust 1.85.0 and depending
>> on whether we managed to get e.g. Ubuntu LTSs to provide a versioned
>> package etc.

Yeah that's what I thought, thanks for confirming.

>> If something simple works, then let's just go for that -- we do not
>> care too much about older versions for linting purposes, since people
>> should be testing with the latest stable too anyway.
>
> It's not going to be simple because `rust_common_flags` is defined
> before the config is read, which means I'll have to sprinkle
> conditional logic in even more places to enable the lints.
>
> The most minimal version of this patch would drop all the build system
> changes and just have conditionally compiled polyfills for the strict
> provenance APIs. Are folks OK with that?

So you'd not enable the lint, but fix all occurrences? I think we should
still have the lint (if it's too cumbersome, then let's only enable it
in the kernel crate).

---
Cheers,
Benno


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-15  9:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-14 12:28 [PATCH v3 0/6] rust: reduce pointer casts, enable related lints Tamir Duberstein
2025-03-14 12:28 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] rust: retain pointer mut-ness in `container_of!` Tamir Duberstein
2025-03-14 12:28 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] rust: enable `clippy::ptr_as_ptr` lint Tamir Duberstein
2025-03-14 12:28 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] rust: enable `clippy::ptr_cast_constness` lint Tamir Duberstein
2025-03-14 12:28 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] rust: enable `clippy::as_ptr_cast_mut` lint Tamir Duberstein
2025-03-14 12:28 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] rust: enable `clippy::as_underscore` lint Tamir Duberstein
2025-03-14 12:28 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] rust: use strict provenance APIs Tamir Duberstein
2025-03-14 20:18   ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-14 22:00     ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-03-14 22:20       ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-03-15  9:44         ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-03-15 11:40           ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-03-14 21:54   ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-15  9:34     ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-15 12:37       ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-15 12:41         ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-03-15 12:59           ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-15 14:52             ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-03-15 18:00         ` Benno Lossin

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