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From: "Luca Ceresoli" <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
To: "Herve Codina" <herve.codina@bootlin.com>,
	"David Gibson" <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>
Cc: "Ayush Singh" <ayush@beagleboard.org>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	<devicetree-compiler@vger.kernel.org>,
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<devicetree-spec@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Hui Pu" <hui.pu@gehealthcare.com>,
	"Ian Ray" <ian.ray@gehealthcare.com>,
	"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 15/15] Introduce v18 dtb version
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2026 17:19:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DHHX3P5TS0D3.VWALCUNJ7LGL@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260210173349.636766-16-herve.codina@bootlin.com>

On Tue Feb 10, 2026 at 6:33 PM CET, Herve Codina wrote:
> This v18 version will add support for
>   - Structured tags.
>     Those tags value definition will allow old libfdt, dtc and other
>     tools to skip unknown tags if encountered in future dtb version.

"old" seems to imply that versions released before today will be able to
wkip unknown tags. I think this should be clarified along the lines of:

  libfdt, dtc and other tools implementing version v18 will be able to wkip
  unknown tags in dtbs generated with later versions of dtc

>   - dt_flags header field.
>     For now this flag field is set to 0. It is a placeholder for future
>     dtb version and could be used to store some dtb related information
>     such as the kind of dtb.

Is this intended for DT addons?

You may mention a realistiv use case here.

>
>   - last_comp_version_w header field.
>     This field is similar to last_comp_version but for writing.
>     It contains the lowest version of the devicetree data structure with
>     which the version used can safely perform modifications (taking into
>     account following rules related to unknown tags).
>     If this lowest version is greater than the last known supported
>     version, modification are simply forbidden and lead to a
>     FDT_ERR_BADVERSION error.
>
> For modification, when an unknown tag that can be skipped is involved
> and last_comp_version_w allows modifications, the following rules
> applies:
  ^
  apply

>   - When a property is modified, tags related to this property are
>     removed and the dtb version is downgraded.
>
>   - When a property is removed, tags related to this property are
>     obviously removed. The dtb version is kept unchanged.
>
>   - When a property or a node is added, obviously no unknown tags are
>     added and the dtb version is kept unchanged.
>
>   - When a node is removed, tags related to this node are obviously
>     removed. The dtb version is kept unchanged.
>
>   - Adding, removing or modifying a property is not considered as a node
>     modification and so, those operations have no impacts on unknown
>     tags related to the node. Those node related tags are kept
>     unchanged.
>
>   - The only modification considered as a node modification is setting
>     its name. We consider that this operation has no impact on tags
>     related to the node. Here also, those node related tags and the dtb
>     version are kept unchanged.
>
>   - Global (dtb related) unknown tags are kept unchanged regardless the
>     modification done.
>
> In all cases, if unknown tags are not involved in a modification, the
> dtb version is not downgraded when the modification is node.
                                                         ^
							 made?


>
> Compared to previous version, it is worth noting that the dtb is not
                                                               ^
				                        "dtb version"

> downgrade for all modification but only when unknown tags are removed
  ^
  downgraded for any


> due a property modification.
  ^
  "due to a ..."

I'm not sure I got what you mean by the initial "Compared to previous
version". Version(s) of what?

If I just remove those 4 words the sentence seems OK to me BTW.

> Signed-off-by: Herve Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com>

I am unable to fully understand the implications of this patch, but the
code seems OK to me as far as I can tell.

Luca

--
Luca Ceresoli, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
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  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-01 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-10 17:33 [RFC PATCH 00/15] Add support for structured tags and v18 dtb version Herve Codina
2026-02-10 17:33 ` [RFC PATCH 01/15] dtc: Use a consistent type for basenamelen Herve Codina
2026-02-13  6:14   ` David Gibson
2026-02-10 17:33 ` [RFC PATCH 02/15] fdtdump: Remove dtb version check Herve Codina
2026-02-14  2:12   ` David Gibson
2026-02-10 17:33 ` [RFC PATCH 03/15] fdtdump: Return an error code on wrong tag value Herve Codina
2026-02-23  5:38   ` David Gibson
2026-02-23  8:39     ` Herve Codina
2026-02-24  5:57       ` David Gibson
2026-02-10 17:33 ` [RFC PATCH 04/15] libfdt: fdt_rw: Introduce fdt_downgrade_version() Herve Codina
2026-02-24  6:09   ` David Gibson
2026-02-10 17:33 ` [RFC PATCH 05/15] libfdt: Introduce fdt_first_node() Herve Codina
2026-04-01 15:11   ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-04-03  7:07     ` Herve Codina
2026-02-10 17:33 ` [RFC PATCH 06/15] libfdt: Don't assume that a FDT_BEGIN_NODE tag is available at offset 0 Herve Codina
2026-04-01 15:11   ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-02-10 17:33 ` [RFC PATCH 07/15] libfdt: fdt_check_full: Handle FDT_NOP when FDT_END is expected Herve Codina
2026-03-04 10:08   ` David Gibson
2026-02-10 17:33 ` [RFC PATCH 08/15] tests: asm: Introduce treehdr_vers macro Herve Codina
2026-02-10 17:33 ` [RFC PATCH 09/15] Introduce structured tag value definition Herve Codina
2026-04-01 15:11   ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-02-10 17:33 ` [RFC PATCH 10/15] fdtdump: Handle unknown tags Herve Codina
2026-04-01 15:15   ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-02-10 17:33 ` [RFC PATCH 11/15] flattree: " Herve Codina
2026-04-01 15:15   ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-02-10 17:33 ` [RFC PATCH 12/15] libfdt: Handle unknown tags in fdt_get_next() Herve Codina
2026-04-01 15:17   ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-02-10 17:33 ` [RFC PATCH 13/15] libfdt: Introduce fdt_ptr_offset_ Herve Codina
2026-04-01 15:18   ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-02-10 17:33 ` [RFC PATCH 14/15] libfdt: Handle unknown tags on dtb modifications Herve Codina
2026-04-01 15:18   ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-02-10 17:33 ` [RFC PATCH 15/15] Introduce v18 dtb version Herve Codina
2026-04-01 15:19   ` Luca Ceresoli [this message]
2026-03-12  7:54 ` [RFC PATCH 00/15] Add support for structured tags and " Herve Codina
2026-03-12 10:21   ` David Gibson
2026-03-16 16:16     ` Herve Codina

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