From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev, mst@redhat.com,
"Claire Chang" <tientzu@chromium.org>,
linux-devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
"Jörg Roedel" <joro@8bytes.org>,
iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
graf@amazon.de
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/3] content: Add VIRTIO_F_SWIOTLB to negotiate use of SWIOTLB bounce buffers
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 00:35:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-46TDmspmX0BJ2H@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <148a3c8ee53af585b42ec025c2c7821ad852c66c.camel@infradead.org>
On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 08:28:19AM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> Linux has 'SWIOTLB' support, but I didn't see it as a term specific to
> that particular implementation; it seemed like a concept would would be
> understood elsewhere. But sure, I'm happy to rename it to just 'bounce
> buffers' or something like that. I'll see what I can come up with that
> is succinct enough to use in VIRTIO_F_xxx and VIRTIO_PCI_CAP_xxx names.
I think you still miss the point.
What you describing is either:
1) A BAR (or BAR-like region on MMIO) that can be used to stage
indirect I/O
and
2a) a device that doesn't have any DMA capabilities, but instead
requires use for the above staging region
and/or
2b) a system configuration where devices are prevented from accessing
guest memory
1) makes perfect sense in virtio. It is the equivalent of the NVMe CMB
and similar features on various devices.
2a) would make sense if we actually have such devices and not just
system configs, which I doubt.
2b) is the job of ACPI or DT to communicate, not that of virtio
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-03 7:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-02 11:04 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Add Software IOTLB bounce buffer support David Woodhouse
2025-04-02 11:04 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] content: Add VIRTIO_F_SWIOTLB to negotiate use of SWIOTLB bounce buffers David Woodhouse
2025-04-02 14:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-02 15:12 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-02 15:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-02 15:47 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-02 15:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-02 16:16 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-02 16:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-02 17:10 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03 7:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-03 7:37 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03 7:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-03 7:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03 7:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-03 8:10 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-04 6:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-04 6:39 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-04 6:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-04 6:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-03 7:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03 7:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03 7:45 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03 8:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03 7:13 ` Zhu Lingshan
2025-04-03 7:24 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03 7:31 ` Zhu Lingshan
2025-04-04 10:27 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03 7:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03 7:54 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03 8:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03 8:22 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03 8:34 ` Zhu Lingshan
2025-04-03 8:57 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-06 6:23 ` Zhu Lingshan
2025-04-03 13:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03 7:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-03 7:28 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03 7:35 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-04-03 8:06 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-04 6:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-04 7:50 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-04 8:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-04 8:16 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-04 8:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-04 9:27 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-04 10:15 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-04 10:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-04 11:15 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-06 18:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-06 18:47 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-07 7:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-07 7:54 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-07 9:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-07 10:09 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-07 14:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-07 14:59 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-07 12:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-07 12:46 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-07 7:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-07 7:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-07 7:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-04 8:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-04 9:39 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-07 7:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-07 9:40 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-02 11:04 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] transport-mmio: Document restricted-dma-pool SWIOTLB bounce buffer David Woodhouse
2025-04-02 11:04 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] transport-pci: Add SWIOTLB bounce buffer capability David Woodhouse
2025-04-02 14:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-02 15:21 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03 7:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03 7:36 ` Zhu Lingshan
2025-04-03 7:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03 8:12 ` Zhu Lingshan
2025-04-03 8:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03 8:37 ` Zhu Lingshan
2025-04-03 8:44 ` David Woodhouse
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