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From: William McVicker <willmcvicker@google.com>
To: Youngmin Nam <youngmin.nam@samsung.com>
Cc: "Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Griffin" <peter.griffin@linaro.org>,
	"André Draszik" <andre.draszik@linaro.org>,
	"Tudor Ambarus" <tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Alim Akhtar" <alim.akhtar@samsung.com>,
	"Daniel Lezcano" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Saravana Kannan" <saravanak@google.com>,
	kernel-team@android.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, "Will Deacon" <willdeacon@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 4/6] arm64: dts: exynos: gs101: Add 'local-timer-stop' to cpuidle nodes
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 11:39:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-7V27GKU85vba0B@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z+4Hve9pQoLeh9sZ@perf>

On 04/03/2025, Youngmin Nam wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 02:59:31PM -0700, William McVicker wrote:
> > Hi Youngmin,
> > 
> > On 04/02/2025, Youngmin Nam wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 04:00:26PM -0700, Will McVicker wrote:
> > > > From: Will Deacon <willdeacon@google.com>
> > > > 
> > > > In preparation for switching to the architected timer as the primary
> > > > clockevents device, mark the cpuidle nodes with the 'local-timer-stop'
> > > > property to indicate that an alternative clockevents device must be
> > > > used for waking up from the "c2" idle state.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Will Deacon <willdeacon@google.com>
> > > > [Original commit from https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/gs/+/a896fd98638047989513d05556faebd28a62b27c]
> > > > Signed-off-by: Will McVicker <willmcvicker@google.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi | 3 +++
> > > >  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> > > > index 3de3a758f113..fd0badf24e6f 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> > > > @@ -155,6 +155,7 @@ ananke_cpu_sleep: cpu-ananke-sleep {
> > > >  				idle-state-name = "c2";
> > > >  				compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> > > >  				arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> > > > +				local-timer-stop;
> > > >  				entry-latency-us = <70>;
> > > >  				exit-latency-us = <160>;
> > > >  				min-residency-us = <2000>;
> > > > @@ -164,6 +165,7 @@ enyo_cpu_sleep: cpu-enyo-sleep {
> > > >  				idle-state-name = "c2";
> > > >  				compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> > > >  				arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> > > > +				local-timer-stop;
> > > >  				entry-latency-us = <150>;
> > > >  				exit-latency-us = <190>;
> > > >  				min-residency-us = <2500>;
> > > > @@ -173,6 +175,7 @@ hera_cpu_sleep: cpu-hera-sleep {
> > > >  				idle-state-name = "c2";
> > > >  				compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> > > >  				arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> > > > +				local-timer-stop;
> > > >  				entry-latency-us = <235>;
> > > >  				exit-latency-us = <220>;
> > > >  				min-residency-us = <3500>;
> > > > -- 
> > > > 2.49.0.472.ge94155a9ec-goog
> > > > 
> > > Hi Will.
> > > 
> > > Are you using this property in production?
> > > If so, have you noticed any performance improvements?
> > 
> > On Pixel 6, I have only recently switched to using the arch_timer as the
> > default clocksource. I haven't noticed any major perf improvements to the main
> > benchmarks, but also haven't seen any regressions. Based on the ChromeOS perf
> > analysis in [1,2], there was a significant perf difference found.
> > 
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-samsung-soc/CAJFHJrrgWGc4XGQB0ysLufAg3Wouz-aYXu97Sy2Kp=HzK+akVQ@mail.gmail.com/
> > [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-samsung-soc/CAASgrz2Nr69tpfC8ka9gbs2OvjLEGsvgAj4vBCFxhsamuFum7w@mail.gmail.com/
> > 
> > If it helps, I found that Pixel 8 and 9 devices (didn't check Pixel 7)
> > are already using the arch_timer with this 'local-timer-stop' as the default
> > clocksource in the production kernel.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Will
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> 
> Hi Will,
> 
> Thanks for sharing the status of Pixel devices.
> 
> I agree that using the arch_timer as a clock source device brings significant benefits.
> The links you shared are definitely related to that.
> 
> However, I would also like to know whether arch_timer is used as a clock event device in Pixel production.

For Pixel 8 and 9, the arch_timer is used as both the clocksource and
clockevent device which is what my series is proposing for Pixel 6 upstream.
The MCT device is solely being used as the alternative clockevents device for
waking up from the "c2" state. The reason for using the arch_timer as the
clockevents device is because we were seeing hrtimer stability issues where
a 10ms interval timer would delay about 300ms-1s before starting the callback.
This resulted in several media-related latency issues.

Thanks,
Will

[...]

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-03 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-31 23:00 [PATCH v1 0/6] Add module support for Arm64 Exynos MCT driver Will McVicker
2025-03-31 23:00 ` [PATCH v1 1/6] of/irq: Export of_irq_count for modules Will McVicker
2025-04-01  2:30   ` Rob Herring
2025-03-31 23:00 ` [PATCH v1 2/6] clocksource/drivers/exynos_mct: Don't register as a sched_clock on arm64 Will McVicker
2025-03-31 23:40   ` John Stultz
2025-04-01 16:50     ` William McVicker
2025-04-02  1:43       ` Youngmin Nam
2025-03-31 23:00 ` [PATCH v1 3/6] clocksource/drivers/exynos_mct: Set local timer interrupts as percpu Will McVicker
2025-03-31 23:45   ` John Stultz
2025-04-01 16:36     ` William McVicker
2025-04-02  2:32       ` Youngmin Nam
2025-04-02 22:39         ` William McVicker
2025-03-31 23:00 ` [PATCH v1 4/6] arm64: dts: exynos: gs101: Add 'local-timer-stop' to cpuidle nodes Will McVicker
2025-04-02  4:10   ` Youngmin Nam
2025-04-02 21:59     ` William McVicker
2025-04-03  3:59       ` Youngmin Nam
2025-04-03 18:39         ` William McVicker [this message]
2025-04-04  0:02           ` Youngmin Nam
2025-03-31 23:00 ` [PATCH v1 5/6] clocksource/drivers/exynos_mct: Add module support Will McVicker
2025-04-01  2:30   ` Rob Herring
2025-04-01 16:27     ` William McVicker
2025-04-01  6:36   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-04-01 16:27     ` William McVicker
2025-04-02  4:27       ` Youngmin Nam
2025-03-31 23:00 ` [PATCH v1 6/6] arm64: exynos: Drop select CLKSRC_EXYNOS_MCT Will McVicker

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