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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Frank van der Linden <fvdl@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 07/16] kexec: add Kexec HandOver (KHO) generation helpers
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:19:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-MB0Cj4tM6QgOAg@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPTztWbFXajArSN8yKu32eSoR=xsk1CHM_4V7MJ0eQxydFqPUQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 11:40:43AM -0700, Frank van der Linden wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 6:56 PM Changyuan Lyu <changyuanl@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>
> >
> > Add the core infrastructure to generate Kexec HandOver metadata. Kexec
> > HandOver is a mechanism that allows Linux to preserve state - arbitrary
> > properties as well as memory locations - across kexec.
> >
> > It does so using 2 concepts:
> >
> >   1) State Tree - Every KHO kexec carries a state tree that describes the
> >      state of the system. The state tree is represented as hash-tables.
> >      Device drivers can add/remove their data into/from the state tree at
> >      system runtime. On kexec, the tree is converted to FDT (flattened
> >      device tree).
> >
> >   2) Scratch Regions - CMA regions that we allocate in the first kernel.
> >      CMA gives us the guarantee that no handover pages land in those
> >      regions, because handover pages must be at a static physical memory
> >      location. We use these regions as the place to load future kexec
> >      images so that they won't collide with any handover data.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>
> > Co-developed-by: Pratyush Yadav <ptyadav@amazon.de>
> > Signed-off-by: Pratyush Yadav <ptyadav@amazon.de>
> > Co-developed-by: Mike Rapoport (Microsoft) <rppt@kernel.org>
> > Signed-off-by: Mike Rapoport (Microsoft) <rppt@kernel.org>
> > Co-developed-by: Changyuan Lyu <changyuanl@google.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Changyuan Lyu <changyuanl@google.com>
> > ---
> >  MAINTAINERS                    |   2 +-
> >  include/linux/kexec_handover.h | 109 +++++
> >  kernel/Makefile                |   1 +
> >  kernel/kexec_handover.c        | 865 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  mm/mm_init.c                   |   8 +
> >  5 files changed, 984 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >  create mode 100644 include/linux/kexec_handover.h
> >  create mode 100644 kernel/kexec_handover.c
> [...]
> > diff --git a/mm/mm_init.c b/mm/mm_init.c
> > index 04441c258b05..757659b7a26b 100644
> > --- a/mm/mm_init.c
> > +++ b/mm/mm_init.c
> > @@ -30,6 +30,7 @@
> >  #include <linux/crash_dump.h>
> >  #include <linux/execmem.h>
> >  #include <linux/vmstat.h>
> > +#include <linux/kexec_handover.h>
> >  #include "internal.h"
> >  #include "slab.h"
> >  #include "shuffle.h"
> > @@ -2661,6 +2662,13 @@ void __init mm_core_init(void)
> >         report_meminit();
> >         kmsan_init_shadow();
> >         stack_depot_early_init();
> > +
> > +       /*
> > +        * KHO memory setup must happen while memblock is still active, but
> > +        * as close as possible to buddy initialization
> > +        */
> > +       kho_memory_init();
> > +
> >         mem_init();
> >         kmem_cache_init();
> >         /*
> 
> 
> Thanks for the work on this.
> 
> Obviously it needs to happen while memblock is still active - but why
> as close as possible to buddy initialization?

One reason is to have all memblock allocations done to autoscale the
scratch area. Another reason is to keep memblock structures small as long
as possible as memblock_reserve()ing the preserved memory would quite
inflate them.

And it's overall simpler if memblock only allocates from scratch rather
than doing some of early allocations from scratch and some elsewhere and
still making sure they avoid the preserved ranges.
 
> Ordering is always a sticky issue when it comes to doing things during
> boot, of course. In this case, I can see scenarios where code that
> runs a little earlier may want to use some preserved memory. The

Can you elaborate about such scenarios?

> current requirement in the patch set seems to be "after sparse/page
> init", but I'm not sure why it needs to be as close as possibly to
> buddy init.

Why would you say that sparse/page init would be a requirement here?
 
> - Frank

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-25 19:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-20  1:55 [PATCH v5 00/16] kexec: introduce Kexec HandOver (KHO) Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-20  1:55 ` [PATCH v5 01/16] kexec: define functions to map and unmap segments Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-20  1:55 ` [PATCH v5 02/16] mm/mm_init: rename init_reserved_page to init_deferred_page Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-20  7:10   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-20 17:15     ` Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-20  1:55 ` [PATCH v5 03/16] memblock: add MEMBLOCK_RSRV_KERN flag Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-20  1:55 ` [PATCH v5 04/16] memblock: Add support for scratch memory Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-20  1:55 ` [PATCH v5 05/16] memblock: introduce memmap_init_kho_scratch() Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-20  1:55 ` [PATCH v5 06/16] hashtable: add macro HASHTABLE_INIT Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-20  1:55 ` [PATCH v5 07/16] kexec: add Kexec HandOver (KHO) generation helpers Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-21 13:34   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-23 19:02     ` Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-24 16:28       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-25  0:21         ` Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-25  2:20           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-24 18:40   ` Frank van der Linden
2025-03-25 19:19     ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2025-03-25 21:56       ` Frank van der Linden
2025-03-26 11:59         ` Mike Rapoport
2025-03-26 16:25           ` Frank van der Linden
2025-03-20  1:55 ` [PATCH v5 08/16] kexec: add KHO parsing support Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-20  1:55 ` [PATCH v5 09/16] kexec: enable KHO support for memory preservation Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-21 13:46   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-22 19:12     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-03-23 18:55       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-24 18:18         ` Mike Rapoport
2025-03-24 20:07           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-26 12:07             ` Mike Rapoport
2025-03-23 19:07     ` Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-25  2:04       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-27 10:03   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-03-27 13:31     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-27 17:28       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-03-28 12:53         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-02 16:44         ` Changyuan Lyu
2025-04-02 16:47           ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-04-02 18:37             ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-04-02 18:49               ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-04-02 19:16   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-04-03 11:42     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-03 13:58       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-03 14:24         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-04  9:54           ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-04 12:47             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-04 13:53               ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-04 14:30                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-04 16:24                   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-04-04 17:31                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-06 16:13                     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-06 16:11                   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-07 14:16                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-07 16:31                       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-07 17:03                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-09  9:06                           ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-09 12:56                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-09 13:58                               ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-09 15:37                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-09 16:19                                   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-09 16:28                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-10 16:51                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-04-10 17:31                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-09 16:28                       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-09 18:32                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-04 16:15                 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-04-06 16:34                   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-07 14:23                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-03 13:57     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-11  4:02     ` Changyuan Lyu
2025-04-03 15:50   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-04-03 16:10     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-03 17:37       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-04-04 12:54         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-04 15:39           ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-04-09  8:35       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-03-20  1:55 ` [PATCH v5 10/16] kexec: add KHO support to kexec file loads Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-21 13:48   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-20  1:55 ` [PATCH v5 11/16] kexec: add config option for KHO Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-20  7:10   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-20 17:18     ` Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-24  4:18   ` Dave Young
2025-03-24 19:26     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-03-25  1:24       ` Dave Young
2025-03-25  3:07         ` Dave Young
2025-03-25  6:57     ` Baoquan He
2025-03-25  8:36       ` Dave Young
2025-03-26  9:17         ` Dave Young
2025-03-26 11:28           ` Mike Rapoport
2025-03-26 12:09             ` Dave Young
2025-03-25 14:04       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-03-20  1:55 ` [PATCH v5 12/16] arm64: add KHO support Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-20  7:13   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-20  8:30     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-20 23:29     ` Changyuan Lyu
2025-04-11  3:47   ` Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-20  1:55 ` [PATCH v5 13/16] x86/setup: use memblock_reserve_kern for memory used by kernel Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-20  1:55 ` [PATCH v5 14/16] x86: add KHO support Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-20  1:55 ` [PATCH v5 15/16] memblock: add KHO support for reserve_mem Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-20  1:55 ` [PATCH v5 16/16] Documentation: add documentation for KHO Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-20 14:45   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-03-21  6:33     ` Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-21 13:46       ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-03-25 14:19 ` [PATCH v5 00/16] kexec: introduce Kexec HandOver (KHO) Pasha Tatashin
2025-03-25 15:03   ` Mike Rapoport

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