From: Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>
To: "Manne, Nava kishore" <nava.kishore.manne@amd.com>
Cc: "git (AMD-Xilinx)" <git@amd.com>,
"mdf@kernel.org" <mdf@kernel.org>,
"hao.wu@intel.com" <hao.wu@intel.com>,
"yilun.xu@intel.com" <yilun.xu@intel.com>,
"trix@redhat.com" <trix@redhat.com>,
"robh@kernel.org" <robh@kernel.org>,
"saravanak@google.com" <saravanak@google.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-fpga@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fpga@vger.kernel.org>,
"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 1/1] fpga-region: Add generic IOCTL interface for runtime FPGA programming
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 09:49:38 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z0Z6socXrmHQ26C0@yilunxu-OptiPlex-7050> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DS7PR12MB6070AAA0C413DBF26F685207CD222@DS7PR12MB6070.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
> > > + * struct fpga_region_ops - ops for low level FPGA region ops for
> > > +device
> > > + * enumeration/removal
> > > + * @region_status: returns the FPGA region status
> > > + * @region_config_enumeration: Configure and enumerate the FPGA region.
> > > + * @region_remove: Remove all devices within the FPGA region
> > > + * (which are added as part of the enumeration).
> > > + */
> > > +struct fpga_region_ops {
> > > + int (*region_status)(struct fpga_region *region);
> > > + int (*region_config_enumeration)(struct fpga_region *region,
> > > + struct fpga_region_config_info *config_info);
> >
> > My current concern is still about this combined API, it just offloads all work to low
> > level, but we have some common flows. That's why we introduce a common FPGA
> > reprograming API.
> >
> > I didn't see issue about the vendor specific pre configuration. They are generally
> > needed to initialize the struct fpga_image_info, which is a common structure for
> > fpga_region_program_fpga().
> >
> > For port IDs(AFU) inputs for DFL, I think it could also be changed (Don't have to be
> > implemented in this patchset). Previously DFL provides an uAPI for the whole
> > device, so it needs a port_id input to position which fpga_region within the device for
> > programming. But now, we are introducing a per fpga_region programming interface,
> > IIUC port_id should not be needed anymore.
> >
> > The combined API is truly simple for leveraging the existing of-fpga-region overlay
> > apply mechanism. But IMHO that flow doesn't fit our new uAPI well. That flow is to
> > adapt the generic configfs overlay interface, which comes to a dead end as you
> > mentioned.
> >
> > My gut feeling for the generic programing flow should be:
> >
> > 1. Program the image to HW.
> > 2. Enumerate the programmed image (apply the DT overlay)
> >
> > Why we have to:
> >
> > 1. Start enumeration.
> > 2. On pre enumeration, programe the image.
> > 3. Real enumeration.
> >
>
> I agree with the approach of leveraging vendor-specific callbacks to handle
> the distinct phases of the FPGA programming process.
> Here's the proposed flow.
>
> Pre-Configuration:
> A vendor-specific callback extracts the required pre-configuration details
> and initializes struct fpga_image_info. This ensures that all vendor-specific
Since we need to construct the fpga_image_info, initialize multiple
field as needed, I'm wondering if configfs could be a solution for the
uAPI?
> requirements are handled before proceeding to the programming phase.
>
> Programming:
> The common API fpga_region_program_fpga() is used to program the image
> to hardware. This standardizes the programming logic, minimizing duplication
> and ensuring consistency across implementations.
>
> Enumeration:
> A vendor-specific callback is used for real enumeration, enabling hardware
> specific customization while keeping the flow flexible and adaptable
>
> This approach provides a clean separation of responsibilities, with
> vendor-specific logic confined to the pre-configuration and enumeration
> phases, while the programming phase leverages a common API.
> It simplifies maintenance and aligns well with the Program -> Enumerate flow.
Generally I'm good to this flow.
Thanks,
Yilun
>
> Looking forward to your feedback.
>
>
> Regards,
> Navakishore.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-27 1:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-29 9:17 [RFC v2 0/1]Add user space interaction for FPGA programming Nava kishore Manne
2024-10-29 9:17 ` [RFC v2 1/1] fpga-region: Add generic IOCTL interface for runtime " Nava kishore Manne
2024-11-19 4:14 ` Xu Yilun
2024-11-21 10:07 ` Manne, Nava kishore
2024-11-27 1:49 ` Xu Yilun [this message]
2024-12-04 6:40 ` Manne, Nava kishore
2024-12-10 9:03 ` Xu Yilun
2024-12-19 9:47 ` Manne, Nava kishore
2023-03-19 15:38 ` Xu Yilun
2025-02-11 11:50 ` Manne, Nava kishore
2024-11-25 11:26 ` Marco Pagani
2024-11-28 1:34 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-26 21:13 ` Marco Pagani
2025-02-06 6:04 ` Xu Yilun
2025-02-17 15:18 ` Marco Pagani
2025-03-01 9:27 ` Xu Yilun
2025-03-16 21:55 ` Marco Pagani
2025-03-17 6:08 ` Xu Yilun
2025-03-17 21:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-11-18 6:11 ` [RFC v2 0/1]Add user space interaction for " Manne, Nava kishore
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