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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: "Uwe Kleine-König" <ukleinek@kernel.org>,
	"David Lechner" <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
	"Jonathan Cameron" <jic23@kernel.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Nuno Sá" <nuno.sa@analog.com>,
	"Michael Hennerich" <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
	"Lars-Peter Clausen" <lars@metafoo.de>,
	"David Jander" <david@protonic.nl>,
	"Martin Sperl" <kernel@martin.sperl.org>,
	linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-iio@vger.kernel.org,
	"Jonathan Cameron" <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 01/17] spi: add basic support for SPI offloading
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 21:15:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z6uhyNPbk_93lsci@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <094f00bc-1001-425f-87ca-84646b68bd70@sirena.org.uk>

On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 06:53:17PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 07:45:30PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> 
> > There was a similar discussion some time ago about the lpss pwm driver
> > (https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pwm/Z09YJGifvpENYNPy@smile.fi.intel.com/).
> > The arguments that you didn't accept back then already are similar to
> > the ones that were brought forward here.
> > The TL;DR; is: Adding MODULE_IMPORT_NS() to a header makes it easier for
> > code to use the exported symbols. Yes, that includes abusers of the
> > code.
> 
> > But if you mostly care about the regular users of an API/ABI, making
> > things easy for those is the thing that matters. Agreed, if you think
> > that module namespaces are primarily a line of defence against abusers,
> > adding the import to the header weakens that defence (a bit). However a
> > typical header includes function prototypes and macros. Those also make
> > it easier for abusers. With your argumentation we better don't create
> > headers at all?
> 
> > There are other benefits of module namespaces like reducing the set of
> > globally available symbols which speeds up module loading or the
> > ability to see in the module meta data that a namespace is used.
> 
> FWIW I fully endorse what Uwe is saying here, forcing every user of the
> API to separately import the symbols seems more likely to create
> busywork than to avoid problems.

I see. Another problem that comes to my mind just now is the module.h to be
included by every header that wants to use MODULE_*() macro. Maybe someone
wants to split mod_namespace.h to decrease an added chaos?

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-11 19:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-07 20:08 [PATCH v8 00/17] spi: axi-spi-engine: add offload support David Lechner
2025-02-07 20:08 ` [PATCH v8 01/17] spi: add basic support for SPI offloading David Lechner
2025-02-10 16:45   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-02-10 17:11     ` David Lechner
2025-02-10 17:48       ` Mark Brown
2025-02-10 20:33         ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-02-11 13:00           ` Mark Brown
2025-02-11 14:20             ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-02-11 14:29               ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-02-11 14:31                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-02-11 14:35                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-02-11 18:45                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2025-02-11 18:53                       ` Mark Brown
2025-02-11 19:15                         ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2025-02-11 19:12                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-02-12  8:52                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2025-02-12 10:55                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-02-12 10:58                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-02-07 20:08 ` [PATCH v8 02/17] spi: offload: add support for hardware triggers David Lechner
2025-02-07 20:09 ` [PATCH v8 03/17] dt-bindings: trigger-source: add generic PWM trigger source David Lechner
2025-02-07 20:09 ` [PATCH v8 04/17] spi: offload-trigger: add PWM trigger driver David Lechner
2025-02-10 16:52   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-02-07 20:09 ` [PATCH v8 05/17] spi: add offload TX/RX streaming APIs David Lechner
2025-02-07 20:09 ` [PATCH v8 06/17] spi: dt-bindings: axi-spi-engine: add SPI offload properties David Lechner
2025-02-07 20:09 ` [PATCH v8 07/17] spi: axi-spi-engine: implement offload support David Lechner
2025-02-07 20:09 ` [PATCH v8 08/17] iio: buffer-dmaengine: split requesting DMA channel from allocating buffer David Lechner
2025-02-07 20:09 ` [PATCH v8 09/17] iio: buffer-dmaengine: add devm_iio_dmaengine_buffer_setup_with_handle() David Lechner
2025-02-07 20:09 ` [PATCH v8 10/17] iio: adc: ad7944: don't use storagebits for sizing David Lechner
2025-02-07 20:09 ` [PATCH v8 11/17] iio: adc: ad7944: add support for SPI offload David Lechner
2025-02-10 19:09   ` David Lechner
2025-02-11 19:32     ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-07 20:09 ` [PATCH v8 12/17] doc: iio: ad7944: describe offload support David Lechner
2025-02-07 20:09 ` [PATCH v8 13/17] dt-bindings: iio: adc: adi,ad4695: add SPI offload properties David Lechner
2025-02-07 20:09 ` [PATCH v8 14/17] iio: adc: ad4695: Add support for SPI offload David Lechner
2025-02-07 20:20   ` Mark Brown
2025-02-08 13:11     ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-10 16:01   ` David Lechner
2025-02-10 18:54     ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-07 20:09 ` [PATCH v8 15/17] doc: iio: ad4695: add SPI offload support David Lechner
2025-02-07 20:09 ` [PATCH v8 16/17] iio: dac: ad5791: sort include directives David Lechner
2025-02-07 20:09 ` [PATCH v8 17/17] iio: dac: ad5791: Add offload support David Lechner
2025-02-10 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 00/17] spi: axi-spi-engine: add " Mark Brown
2025-02-10 18:59   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-10 16:07 ` (subset) " Mark Brown

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