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From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
To: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Cc: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org,
	bhelgaas@google.com, ojeda@kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 07/16] rust: add `io::{Io, IoRaw}` base types
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 11:12:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8GL-plbtphS62hl@pollux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <w2udn7qfzcvncghilcwaz4qc6rv2si3dqpjcs2wrbvits3b44k@parw3mnusbuf>

On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 04:29:04PM +1100, Alistair Popple wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 11:01:55AM +0100, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 11:25:55AM +1100, Alistair Popple wrote:
> 
> > > To be honest I don't really understand the utility here because the compile-time
> > > check can't be a definitive check. You're always going to have to fallback to
> > > a run-time check because at least for PCI (and likely others) you can't know
> > > for at compile time if the IO region is big enough or matches the compile-time
> > > constraint.
> > 
> > That's not true, let me explain.
> > 
> > When you write a driver, you absolutely have to know the register layout. This
> > means that you also know what the minimum PCI bar size has to be for your driver
> > to work. If it would be smaller than what your driver expects, it can't function
> > anyways. In Rust we make use of this fact.
> > 
> > When you map  a PCI bar through `pdev.iomap_region_sized` you pass in a const
> > generic (`SIZE`) representing the *expected* PCI bar size. This can indeed fail
> > on run-time, but that's fine, as mentioned, if the bar is smaller than what your
> > driver expect, it's useless anyways.
> > 
> > If the call succeeds, it means that the actual PCI bar size is greater or equal
> > to `SIZE`. Since `SIZE` is known at compile time all subsequent I/O operations
> > can be boundary checked against `SIZE` at compile time, which additionally makes
> > the call infallible. This works for most I/O operations drivers do.
> 
> Argh! That's the piece I was missing - that this makes the IO call infallible
> and thus removes the need to write run-time error handling code. Sadly of course
> that's not actually true, because I/O operations can always fail for reasons
> other than what can be checked at compile time (eg. in particular PCI devices
> can fall off the bus and return all 0xF's). But I guess existing drivers don't
> really handle those cases either.

We handle this case too by giving out a Devres<pci::Bar> rather than just a
pci::Bar. The former gets revoked when the device falls off the bus.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-28 10:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-19 17:04 [PATCH v7 00/16] Device / Driver PCI / Platform Rust abstractions Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v7 01/16] rust: module: add trait `ModuleMetadata` Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-24 20:51   ` Gary Guo
2024-12-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v7 02/16] rust: implement generic driver registration Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-24 19:58   ` Gary Guo
2025-01-02  9:34     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v7 03/16] rust: implement `IdArray`, `IdTable` and `RawDeviceId` Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-24 20:10   ` Gary Guo
2025-01-02  9:36     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-03-15 16:52   ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-03-15 16:59     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-03-15 17:31       ` Tamir Duberstein
2024-12-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v7 04/16] rust: add rcu abstraction Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-24 20:54   ` Gary Guo
2025-01-02  9:44     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v7 05/16] rust: types: add `Opaque::pin_init` Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-24 20:21   ` Gary Guo
2024-12-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v7 06/16] rust: add `Revocable` type Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v7 07/16] rust: add `io::{Io, IoRaw}` base types Danilo Krummrich
2025-01-16 10:31   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-01-20 12:54     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-02-21  1:20   ` Alistair Popple
2025-02-21  3:58     ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-02-25  5:50       ` Alistair Popple
2025-02-25 11:04         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-02-27  0:25           ` Alistair Popple
2025-02-27 10:01             ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-02-28  5:29               ` Alistair Popple
2025-02-28 10:12                 ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2025-02-28 10:22                 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-02-27 16:06             ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-12-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v7 08/16] rust: add devres abstraction Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-24 21:53   ` Gary Guo
2025-01-02 10:30     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-01-02 15:59       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-01-14 16:33     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-01-15  6:41       ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v7 09/16] rust: pci: add basic PCI device / driver abstractions Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v7 10/16] rust: pci: implement I/O mappable `pci::Bar` Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v7 11/16] samples: rust: add Rust PCI sample driver Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v7 12/16] rust: of: add `of::DeviceId` abstraction Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v7 13/16] rust: driver: implement `Adapter` Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v7 14/16] rust: platform: add basic platform device / driver abstractions Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v7 15/16] samples: rust: add Rust platform sample driver Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-19 17:04 ` [PATCH v7 16/16] MAINTAINERS: add Danilo to DRIVER CORE Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-20  7:24 ` [PATCH v7 00/16] Device / Driver PCI / Platform Rust abstractions Dirk Behme
2024-12-20 16:44 ` Greg KH

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