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From: Stephan Gerhold <stephan@gerhold.net>
To: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>,
	Ilia Lin <ilia.lin@kernel.org>, Viresh Kumar <vireshk@kernel.org>,
	Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,
	Christian Marangi <ansuelsmth@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 15/18] ARM: dts: qcom: apq8064: provide voltage scaling tables
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 15:59:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZIck0L-gK_a_jCtc@gerhold.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8c1085fd-8a73-d192-6624-d4f35728e68a@linaro.org>

On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 04:33:09PM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> On 12/06/2023 12:01, Stephan Gerhold wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 08:39:19AM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> > > APQ8064 has 4 speed bins, each of them having from 4 to 6 categorization
> > > kinds. Provide tables necessary to handle voltage scaling on this SoC.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>
> > > ---
> > >   arch/arm/boot/dts/qcom-apq8064.dtsi | 1017 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >   1 file changed, 1017 insertions(+)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/arch/arm/boot/dts/qcom-apq8064.dtsi b/arch/arm/boot/dts/qcom-apq8064.dtsi
> > > index 4ef13f3d702b..f35853b59544 100644
> > > --- a/arch/arm/boot/dts/qcom-apq8064.dtsi
> > > +++ b/arch/arm/boot/dts/qcom-apq8064.dtsi
> > > @@ -49,6 +49,9 @@ CPU0: cpu@0 {
> > >   			clocks = <&kraitcc KRAIT_CPU_0>;
> > >   			clock-names = "cpu";
> > >   			clock-latency = <100000>;
> > > +			vdd-mem-supply = <&pm8921_l24>;
> > > +			vdd-dig-supply = <&pm8921_s3>;
> > > +			vdd-core-supply = <&saw0_vreg>;
> > >   			interconnects = <&kraitcc MASTER_KRAIT_L2 &kraitcc SLAVE_KRAIT_L2>;
> > >   			operating-points-v2 = <&cpu_opp_table>;
> > >   			#cooling-cells = <2>;
> > > @@ -66,6 +69,9 @@ CPU1: cpu@1 {
> > >   			clocks = <&kraitcc KRAIT_CPU_1>;
> > >   			clock-names = "cpu";
> > >   			clock-latency = <100000>;
> > > +			vdd-mem-supply = <&pm8921_l24>;
> > > +			vdd-dig-supply = <&pm8921_s3>;
> > > +			vdd-core-supply = <&saw1_vreg>;
> > >   			interconnects = <&kraitcc MASTER_KRAIT_L2 &kraitcc SLAVE_KRAIT_L2>;
> > >   			operating-points-v2 = <&cpu_opp_table>;
> > >   			#cooling-cells = <2>;
> > > @@ -83,6 +89,9 @@ CPU2: cpu@2 {
> > >   			clocks = <&kraitcc KRAIT_CPU_2>;
> > >   			clock-names = "cpu";
> > >   			clock-latency = <100000>;
> > > +			vdd-mem-supply = <&pm8921_l24>;
> > > +			vdd-dig-supply = <&pm8921_s3>;
> > > +			vdd-core-supply = <&saw2_vreg>;
> > >   			interconnects = <&kraitcc MASTER_KRAIT_L2 &kraitcc SLAVE_KRAIT_L2>;
> > >   			operating-points-v2 = <&cpu_opp_table>;
> > >   			#cooling-cells = <2>;
> > > @@ -100,6 +109,9 @@ CPU3: cpu@3 {
> > >   			clocks = <&kraitcc KRAIT_CPU_3>;
> > >   			clock-names = "cpu";
> > >   			clock-latency = <100000>;
> > > +			vdd-mem-supply = <&pm8921_l24>;
> > > +			vdd-dig-supply = <&pm8921_s3>;
> > > +			vdd-core-supply = <&saw3_vreg>;
> > >   			interconnects = <&kraitcc MASTER_KRAIT_L2 &kraitcc SLAVE_KRAIT_L2>;
> > >   			operating-points-v2 = <&cpu_opp_table>;
> > >   			#cooling-cells = <2>;
> > > @@ -132,6 +144,81 @@ cpu_opp_table: opp-table-cpu {
> > >   		opp-384000000 {
> > >   			opp-hz = /bits/ 64 <384000000>;
> > >   			opp-peak-kBps = <384000>;
> > > +			opp-microvolt-speed0-pvs0 = <1050000 1050000 1150000>,
> > > +						    <950000 950000 1150000>,
> > > +						    <950000 950000 975000>;
> > 
> > I think this won't result in the correct switch order without making
> > some changes to the OPP core. In _set_opp() the OPP core does
> > 
> > 	/* Scaling up? Configure required OPPs before frequency */
> > 	if (!scaling_down) {
> > 		_set_required_opps();
> > 		_set_opp_bw();
> > 		opp_table->config_regulators();
> > 	}
> > 
> > 	opp_table->config_clks();
> > 
> > 	/* Scaling down? Configure required OPPs after frequency */
> > 	if (scaling_down) {
> > 		opp_table->config_regulators();
> > 		_set_opp_bw();
> > 		_set_required_opps();
> > 	}
> > 
> > Since the "bandwidth" for the L2 cache is set before the regulators
> > there is a short window where the L2 clock is running at a high
> > frequency with too low voltage, which could potentially cause
> > instability. On downstream this seems to be done in the proper order [1].
> > 
> > I'm not sure if the order in the OPP core is on purpose. If not, you
> > could propose moving the config_regulators() first (for scaling up)
> > and last (for scaling down). This would resolve the problem.
> 
> Nice catch, I missed this ordering point.
> 
> > 
> > The alternative that I've already argued for on IRC in #linux-msm a
> > couple of days ago would be to give the L2 cache (here: "interconnect")
> > an own OPP table where it can describe its voltage requirements,
> > independent from the CPU. That way the icc_set_bw() would be guaranteed
> > to apply the correct voltage before adjusting the L2 cache clock. It
> > looks like the "l2_level" voltages for vdd_dig and vdd_mem are not
> > speedbin/PVS-specific [2] so this would also significantly reduce the DT
> > size, since you wouldn't need to repeat the same vdd_dig/vdd_mem
> > voltages for all of them.
> 
> Yes. I fact our discussion triggered me to do this patchset.
> 
> So, another option would be to have something like the following snippet. Do
> you know if we are allowed to squish additional data into the L2 cache DT
> node?
> 

I suspect no one has tried this before, so only the DT maintainers could
answer this. I would say that it just follows the existing design of
clocks/-supply/OPPs on the CPU nodes. vdd-mem-supply isn't a property of
the CPU, it's a property of the L2 cache so it actually fits better there.

I think the more controversial questions might be:

  - Is a L2 cache really an "interconnect"? I suppose one could argue it
    connects multiple CPU cores to a cluster (similar how a CCI connects
    multiple clusters to a system).

  - What would bind to the l2-cache node? A separate driver? Does that
    work if it sits below the /cpus node?

Thanks,
Stephan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-12 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-12  5:39 [PATCH 00/18] ARM: qcom: apq8064: support CPU frequency scaling Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-11 16:27 ` Christian Marangi
2023-06-12 14:20   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-13 16:19     ` Christian Marangi
2023-06-14 20:18       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 01/18] dt-bindings: opp: opp-v2-kryo-cpu: support Qualcomm Krait SoCs Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-14 16:01   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-06-14 20:11     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-21  8:51       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 02/18] dt-bindings: soc: qcom: merge qcom,saw2.txt into qcom,spm.yaml Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-14 16:03   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 03/18] dt-bindings: soc: qcom: qcom,saw2: define optional regulator node Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-14 16:05   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-06-14 22:49     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-21  8:46       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 04/18] dt-bindings: clock: qcom,krait-cc: Krait core clock controller Dmitry Baryshkov
     [not found]   ` <3ce1bd9b0cb23e4e60b093327e705d69.sboyd@kernel.org>
2023-06-12 22:33     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 05/18] clk: qcom: krait-cc: rewrite driver to use clk_hw instead of clk Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 06/18] clk: qcom: krait-cc: export L2 clock as an interconnect Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 07/18] soc: qcom: spm: add support for voltage regulator Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 08/18] cpufreq: qcom-nvmem: also accept operating-points-v2-krait-cpu Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 09/18] cpufreq: qcom-nvmem: Add support for voltage scaling Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 10/18] cpufreq: qcom-nvmem: drop pvs_ver for format a fuses Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 11/18] cpufreq: qcom-nvmem: provide separate configuration data for apq8064 Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 12/18] ARM: dts: qcom: apq8064: rename SAW nodes to power-manager Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 13/18] ARM: dts: qcom: apq8064: declare SAW2 regulators Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 14/18] ARM: dts: qcom: apq8064: add simple CPUFreq support Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 15/18] ARM: dts: qcom: apq8064: provide voltage scaling tables Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-12  9:01   ` Stephan Gerhold
2023-06-12 13:33     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-11 22:16       ` Christian Marangi
2023-06-12 13:59       ` Stephan Gerhold [this message]
2023-06-12 15:38         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 16/18] ARM: dts: qcom: apq8064: enable passive CPU cooling Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 17/18] ARM: dts: qcom: apq8064-asus-nexus7-flo: constraint cpufreq regulators Dmitry Baryshkov
2023-06-12  5:39 ` [PATCH 18/18] ARM: dts: qcom: apq8064-ifc6410: " Dmitry Baryshkov

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