From: Link Mauve <linkmauve@linkmauve.fr>
To: Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@ndufresne.ca>
Cc: Link Mauve <linkmauve@linkmauve.fr>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar>,
Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Sebastian Reichel <sebastian.reichel@collabora.com>,
Cristian Ciocaltea <cristian.ciocaltea@collabora.com>,
Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>,
Shreeya Patel <shreeya.patel@collabora.com>,
Chris Morgan <macromorgan@hotmail.com>,
Andy Yan <andy.yan@rock-chips.com>,
Nicolas Frattaroli <frattaroli.nicolas@gmail.com>,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
iommu@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] Enable JPEG encoding on rk3588
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 17:07:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZhlOJ4gOuO9k-A37@desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ed0b32ec6da10f46ff5d820612bfe700388fae1e.camel@ndufresne.ca>
On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 10:08:58AM +0200, Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> Le vendredi 05 avril 2024 à 16:21 +0200, Link Mauve a écrit :
> > On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 01:41:15PM -0400, Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> > > Hi,
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > >
> > > Le mercredi 27 mars 2024 à 14:41 +0100, Emmanuel Gil Peyrot a écrit :
> > > > Only the JPEG encoder is available for now, although there are patches
> > > > for the undocumented VP8 encoder floating around[0].
> > >
> > > [0] seems like a broken link. The VP8 encoder RFC is for RK3399 (and Hantro H1
> > > posted by ST more recently). The TRM says "VEPU121(JPEG encoder only)", which
> > > suggest that the H.264 and VP8 encoders usually found on the VEPU121 are
> > > removed. As Rockchip have remove the synthesize register while modifying the H1
> > > IP, it is difficult to verify. Confusingly the H.264 specific registers are
> > > documented in the TRM around VEPU121.
> >
> > Ah, the link became, and was indeed ST’s series:
> > https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-rockchip/list/?series=789885&archive=both
> >
> > But the TRM part 1 says the VEPU121 supports H.264 encoding (page 367),
> > and it’s likely they didn’t remove just VP8 support since the codec
> > features are pretty close to H.264’s.
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > This has been tested on a rock-5b, resulting in four /dev/video*
> > > > encoders. The userspace program I’ve been using to test them is
> > > > Onix[1], using the jpeg-encoder example, it will pick one of these four
> > > > at random (but displays the one it picked):
> > > > % ffmpeg -i <input image> -pix_fmt yuvj420p temp.yuv
> > > > % jpeg-encoder temp.yuv <width> <height> NV12 <quality> output.jpeg
> > >
> > > I don't like that we exposing each identical cores a separate video nodes. I
> > > think we should aim for 1 device, and then multi-plex and schedule de cores from
> > > inside the Linux kernel.
> >
> > I agree, but this should be handled in the driver not in the device
> > tree, and it can be done later.
>
> As the behaviour we want is that these cores becomes a group and get schedule
> together, its certainly a good time to slow down and evaluate if that part needs
> to be improve in the DT too.
>
> Hantro G1/H1 and VEPU/VDPU121 combos originally shared the same sram region. Its
> not clear if any of these cores have this limitation and if this should be
> expressed in the DT / driver.
The TRM on page 369 mentions that:
> Please note that VDPU121 and VDPU381 and VDPU720 and AV1 and VEPU121 and VEPU580
> is different IP cores, so these processing core can be work together.
I understand that as them not sharing any memory and being able to work
independently.
>
> >
> > >
> > > Not doing this now means we'll never have an optimal hardware usage
> > > distribution. Just consider two userspace software wanting to do jpeg encoding.
> > > If they both take a guess, they may endup using a single core. Where with proper
> > > scheduling in V4L2, the kernel will be able to properly distribute the load. I
> > > insist on this, since if we merge you changes it becomes an ABI and we can't
> > > change it anymore.
> >
> > Will it really become ABI just like that? Userspace should always
> > discover the video nodes and their capabilities and not hardcode e.g. a
> > specific /dev/videoN file for a specific codec. I would argue that this
> > series would let userspace do JPEG encoding right away, even if in a
> > less optimal way than if the driver would round-robin them through a
> > single video node, but that can always be added in a future version.
>
> Might be on the gray side, but there is good chances software written for your
> specific board can stop working after te grouping is done.
I will send a new series shortly which enables only one of these four
cores, the functionality should be the same, it will just expose only
one video node which can get a four times throughput upgrade later once
we implement multi-core support in the driver.
>
> >
> > >
> > > I understand that this impose a rework of the mem2mem framework so that we can
> > > run multiple jobs, but this will be needed anyway on RK3588, since the rkvdec2,
> > > which we don't have a driver yet is also multi-core, but you need to use 2 cores
> > > when the resolution is close to 8K.
> >
> > I think the mediatek JPEG driver already supports that, would it be ok
> > to do it the same way?
>
> I don't know for JPEG, the MTK vcoder do support cascading cores. This is
> different from concurrent cores. In MTK architecture, for some of the codec,
> there is LAT (entropy decoder) and CORE (the reconstruction block) that are
> split.
Ah, that’s different then, I only had a cursory look at them back when I
implemented the JPEG decoder for sunxi.
>
> Nicolas
--
Link Mauve
prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-12 15:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-27 13:41 [PATCH v2 0/2] Enable JPEG encoding on rk3588 Emmanuel Gil Peyrot
2024-03-27 13:41 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] media: dt-binding: media: Document rk3588’s VEPU121 Emmanuel Gil Peyrot
2024-03-27 17:23 ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-04 17:47 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2024-03-27 17:44 ` Sebastian Reichel
2024-03-27 13:41 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add VEPU121 to rk3588 Emmanuel Gil Peyrot
2024-03-27 17:45 ` Sebastian Reichel
2024-04-04 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Enable JPEG encoding on rk3588 Nicolas Dufresne
2024-04-05 14:21 ` Link Mauve
2024-04-07 8:08 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2024-04-12 15:07 ` Link Mauve [this message]
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=ZhlOJ4gOuO9k-A37@desktop \
--to=linkmauve@linkmauve.fr \
--cc=andy.yan@rock-chips.com \
--cc=conor+dt@kernel.org \
--cc=cristian.ciocaltea@collabora.com \
--cc=devicetree@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=dsimic@manjaro.org \
--cc=ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar \
--cc=frattaroli.nicolas@gmail.com \
--cc=heiko@sntech.de \
--cc=iommu@lists.linux.dev \
--cc=joro@8bytes.org \
--cc=krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org \
--cc=linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-media@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org \
--cc=macromorgan@hotmail.com \
--cc=mchehab@kernel.org \
--cc=nicolas@ndufresne.ca \
--cc=p.zabel@pengutronix.de \
--cc=robh@kernel.org \
--cc=robin.murphy@arm.com \
--cc=sebastian.reichel@collabora.com \
--cc=shreeya.patel@collabora.com \
--cc=will@kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).