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From: Marcelo Schmitt <marcelo.schmitt1@gmail.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
	Marcelo Schmitt <marcelo.schmitt@analog.com>,
	lars@metafoo.de, Michael.Hennerich@analog.com, jic23@kernel.org,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org,
	conor+dt@kernel.org, nuno.sa@analog.com,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/6] spi: Add SPI mode bit for MOSI idle state configuration
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 19:08:30 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZmIzXun2-DWl7cT-@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d09485bf-bbb5-4a3f-84b8-54478c6d78cf@sirena.org.uk>

On 06/05, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 05, 2024 at 11:37:48AM -0500, David Lechner wrote:
> > On 6/5/24 7:24 AM, Mark Brown wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 07:41:47PM -0300, Marcelo Schmitt wrote:
> 
> > >> The behavior of an SPI controller data output line (SDO or MOSI or COPI
> > >> (Controller Output Peripheral Input) for disambiguation) is not specified
> > >> when the controller is not clocking out data on SCLK edges. However, there
> > >> exist SPI peripherals that require specific COPI line state when data is
> > >> not being clocked out of the controller.
> 
> > I think this description is missing a key detail that the tx data line
> > needs to be high just before and also during the CS assertion at the start
> > of each message.
> 
> > And it would be helpful to have this more detailed description in the
> > source code somewhere and not just in the commit message.
> 
> Yes, there's no way anyone could infer this from any aspect of the
> series.  I think the properties also need a clearer name since someone
> might want the accelerator functionality at some point.

So, if I understand correctly, it would be desirable to also have flags and
descriptions for the MOSI idle configuration capabilities in include/linux/spi/spi.h.

Does the following definitions look good?
#define SPI_CONTROLLER_MOSI_IDLE_LOW		BIT(8)
#define SPI_CONTROLLER_MOSI_IDLE_HIGH		BIT(9)

Maybe also document the MOSI idle configuration feature in spi-summary.rst?

> 
> > > Even without that we'd need feature detection so that drivers that try
> > > to use this aren't just buggy when used with a controller that doesn't
> > > implement it, but once you're detecting you may as well just make things
> > > work.
> 
> > I could see something like this working for controllers that leave the
> > tx data line in the state of the last bit of a write transfer. I.e. do a
> > write transfer of 0xff (using the smallest number of bits per word
> > supported by the controller) with CS not asserted, then assert CS, then
> > do the rest of actual the transfers requested by the peripheral.
> 
> > But it doesn't seem like it would work for controllers that always
> > return the tx data line to a low state after a write since this would
> > mean that the data line would still be low during the CS assertion
> > which is what we need to prevent.
> 
> With the additional requirement it's not emulatable, but we'd still need
> the checks in the core.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-06 22:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-04 22:40 [PATCH v3 0/6] Add support for AD4000 series of ADCs Marcelo Schmitt
2024-06-04 22:41 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] spi: Add SPI mode bit for MOSI idle state configuration Marcelo Schmitt
2024-06-05  9:14   ` Nuno Sá
2024-06-05 12:02     ` Mark Brown
2024-06-06 20:10       ` Marcelo Schmitt
2024-06-07 13:52         ` Mark Brown
2024-06-05 12:24   ` Mark Brown
2024-06-05 16:37     ` David Lechner
2024-06-05 17:04       ` Mark Brown
2024-06-06 22:08         ` Marcelo Schmitt [this message]
2024-06-07 13:51           ` Mark Brown
2024-06-06 19:57     ` Marcelo Schmitt
2024-06-07 13:50       ` Mark Brown
2024-06-07 14:55         ` Marcelo Schmitt
2024-06-04 22:42 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] spi: bitbang: Implement support " Marcelo Schmitt
2024-06-05  9:30   ` Nuno Sá
2024-06-04 22:42 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] spi: spi-gpio: Add " Marcelo Schmitt
2024-06-05  9:26   ` Nuno Sá
2024-06-04 22:43 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] spi: spi-axi-spi-engine: Add support for MOSI idle configuration Marcelo Schmitt
2024-06-05  9:25   ` Nuno Sá
2024-06-05 17:03   ` David Lechner
2024-06-06  6:51     ` Nuno Sá
2024-06-06 13:21       ` David Lechner
2024-06-06 21:31         ` Marcelo Schmitt
2024-06-07  7:15           ` Nuno Sá
2024-06-07 14:40             ` Marcelo Schmitt
2024-06-09  9:11               ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-06-04 22:43 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] dt-bindings: iio: adc: Add AD4000 Marcelo Schmitt
2024-06-05 17:14   ` Conor Dooley
2024-06-07 14:35     ` Marcelo Schmitt
2024-06-07 14:49       ` Conor Dooley
2024-06-05  9:31 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] Add support for AD4000 series of ADCs Nuno Sá
2024-06-05 11:19   ` Marcelo Schmitt
2024-06-05 11:14 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] iio: adc: Add support for AD4000 Marcelo Schmitt
2024-06-05 13:03   ` Nuno Sá
2024-06-09  9:23     ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-06-11 10:34       ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-06-11 17:05         ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-06-05 20:50   ` kernel test robot
2024-06-05 21:32   ` kernel test robot

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