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From: Charlie Jenkins <charlie@rivosinc.com>
To: Evan Green <evan@rivosinc.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] RISC-V: Add parameter to unaligned access speed
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 11:48:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZrEebH2wdjRgfYCB@ghost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALs-HstYwwgPAOP22V1A6iTX85eRqRp4b4039pewsDHus_dLgQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Aug 05, 2024 at 11:38:23AM -0700, Evan Green wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 10:38 AM Jesse Taube <jesse@rivosinc.com> wrote:
> >
> > Add a kernel parameter to the unaligned access speed. This allows
> > skiping of the speed tests for unaligned accesses, which often is very
> > slow.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Jesse Taube <jesse@rivosinc.com>
> 
> How come this is a command line parameter rather than a Kconfig
> option? I could be wrong, so I'll lay out my rationale and people can
> pick it apart if I've got a bad assumption.
> 
> I think of commandline parameters as (mostly) something end users
> twiddle with, versus kconfig options as something system builders set
> up. I'd largely expect end users not to notice two ticks at boot time.
> I'd expect its system builders and fleet managers, who know their
> hardware and build their kernels optimized for it, are the ones who
> would want to shave off this time and go straight to the known answer.
> Anecdotally, at ChromeOS we had a strong preference for Kconfig
> options, as they were easier to compose and maintain than a loose pile
> of commandline arguments.
> 
> The commit text doesn't go into the rationale, intended audience, or
> expected usage, so maybe my guesses miss the mark on what you're
> thinking.
> -Evan

There was a brief discussion about this on Jesse's series about vector
unaligned support [1]. The original idea was to use Zicclsm to allow
people to set the unaligned access speed on pre-compiled distro kernels.
However Zicclsm isn't useful so the alternative route was to use a
kernel arg. There is already support for a Kconfig, the kernel arg is
just another option for users.

Link:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/af3152b6-adf7-40fa-b2a1-87e66eec45b0@rivosinc.com/
[1]

- Charlie


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-05 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-05 17:38 [PATCH 1/1] RISC-V: Add parameter to unaligned access speed Jesse Taube
2024-08-05 17:38 ` [PATCH 0/1] RISC-V: kernel parameter for " Jesse Taube
2024-08-05 18:38 ` [PATCH 1/1] RISC-V: Add parameter to " Evan Green
2024-08-05 18:48   ` Charlie Jenkins [this message]
2024-08-05 18:56     ` Evan Green

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